Three Autos From One Break, $45k PSA Controversy & Bam Adebayo’s incredible 83 point game

Hey guys, on today's episode of Collector Nation first, Leonard Berry and I break down, March Madness. Leonard is the athlete YouTube channel manager for on it. We talked all about what Onis doing with trading cards specifically. Hey, we opened a pack of Gonzaga. Got some hits though. You'll see that and more on the episode. We talked about all the things they're doing with player rights and you would believe how many sports we talked about that they're doing. And of course, March Madness coming up on Sunday. Brian and I dug into the latest headlines, BAM had a Vagio, hit 83 points, second all time, unbelievable. When impacted ahead to this card, we talk about that. Also talked about a break that I was in. A little surprise, three big cards, that and more. On Collector Nation. Here's where it gets interesting. Then I go to the next card, the final card. Three out of the same series, same set. Queen, who's autographs? Three out of 100. What are the odds? The odds of that is a mistake. So I don't even know. But there's probably nobody this had seen too. What's the last three? BAM out of Ijo scored 83 points. I have to write to his own head like BAM. Card that was originally created a PSA 10 got damaged. I PSA and then PSA offered the collector only $20,000 compensation for this error. A little fishy. Your job as a CEO is to investigate it. But they tend to never come out. They just kind of let it go. You don't know it's believed. Welcome to the Collector Nation podcast here on the Collector Nation Network. Whether you're chasing trails or calling bluffs. You take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts. Ryan offer and Brian look. All right. This Sunday we have selection Sunday. For me, it's always get excited. I'm like I'm going to fill out my bracket. I'm going to do so good and I don't know about you Leonard. It very, rarely goes go. That's but look, I got a good luck charm. It's on it. It's Leonard Barry. He is the head of the athlete YouTube channel. It on it. What's up brother? Hey, good to see you again, Ryan. I appreciate you having me here. I agree. I get so excited to fill out that bracket and I want the first one to be perfect, right? And then I like do it and I look it over and I'm like, what if these guys? Yeah. And I'm a Clemson fan. We're going to make the tournament for the third year in a row, which is the big news for us. So I'm excited about it from the home team. Talk to me about maybe some of the fun stuff y'all are doing with basketball or the product in general it on it. Yeah. I mean, this as you know is probably one of the best times to be like a college sport fan because you have baseball and softball really getting into the swing of things basketball. Everybody looks forward to March madness. College football is crazy. It sounds ramping up a can with spring games like you have the opportunity to see your teams out there and can't forget to like wrestling and gymnastics are going into their winter sport championships alongside March madness. So a lot of fun stuff there. Like you said, we kind of cover it all. So we're focusing on Penn State, Ohio State wrestling is they go for national championships, you know, gymnastics, you sell gymnastics is always one of the top and but everybody does. March madness is what matters. Selection centers coming up a few days from now and the basketball product this year, as you've seen and as you don't let it's just so much fun. We got brand new inserts, general admission, hype. There's a lot of great signatures in there and I just love the opportunity to kind of connect with some of these guys who I see on the court and who I'm going to be hoping will leave me to a perfect bracket. Be able to know that they they signed one of my cards that I'm bowling here. So if you didn't know, you need to know you have the best teams and the best players on it has it all again and we're going to open some right here. Gonzaga they used to be the Cinderella team winner. I'm just not buying that anymore. Dan Hurley has it going on. Well, yeah, there ain't no silly girl team anymore. No, they're definitely not. I mean, it's kind of crazy to think about like the run that Gonzaga has been on, you know, these past 20 years. They just won the WCC championship again this week. They're going to be in pack 12 next year. I think that's going to be probably the weirdest change. Like now you're going to have done Zaga in what's supposed to be a premium conference. So it's cool to see the Zags get the recognition they deserve and I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the final four again this year, especially behind guys like Bradenhoff or Graham E.K. who you know appear on the product. Like you said, some of the best players that we'll see on the court here very soon. Yeah, well, we're going to see him even sooner as I go for a 101 here. And look, here it is. Here's how it's going to go. You send me some comments. We might say we'll send you some cards. We'll we'll raffle off something. We'll do something fun with with the best picks. I'm opening the Gonzaga cars. We're looking for that Bradenhoff Braden Smith. Dylan Warley high on Grant Foster, you know, to name a few. This is the value pack. You get 40 cards, 10 cards in each pack, four packs. Hey, this is looking premium, my friend. I mean, it just feels premium. All right, here we go. Right on the top. Braden Smith, one of the better players, Steven Ventures. There's another one of the better players. Ty on Grant Foster coming in. No up. I see what looks like. There we go. Is that? Oh, they're black out. Very nice. Nice little black out right there. Yeah, I would call that a velvet Schwade. Yeah. I'm a marketer. I'm a marketer, Leonard. But that's how it feels to me. The texture is very Schwade-like. Well, we got another refractor of some sort here. It's kind of shimmer. Oh, yeah. So that's the orange, orange shimmer there. That's so that's a value box exclusive. You can't find that orange parallel in a single pack or a platinum box. You're only going to get those in your value boxes there. So if you're trying to do the rainbow, you want that orange shimmer, you're going to get it from either opening your own value box. If somebody else opened one, did you buy it off of them? And then capers colors. Yeah. Another nice little base insert there. And then this guy. Yeah, Graham EK on the fusion. So that's another pretty common insert. There's we have two colors of fusions. And then there's also a one-on-one version. So there'll be one that's like a teen color blue. And then there's also that white one. And then there's a premium as well, which is a one-on-one. Wow. That's only one pack. I'm like, hey, there's three more here. All right, let's see. We got I'm going to pick up the pace. Yeah. Up. There's some color. That's nice. Yeah, that's hype. So that's one of the brand new inserts this year. That looks gorgeous. Let's see here. We've got a aqua. Yeah, that's a teal insert. So people in our TikTok comments will get on me about pulling too many teals. They don't like to see teals. They don't have too common of a parallel. There's little brain space. I'm liking the color. Lots of color variation here on the table. Shining at me. Really? Oh, another blackout. Nice. That does feel nice to the hand. I got to admit it. Oh, another orange shimmer. We got one pack left, right? Last tag magic. So auto or is there another hit? Like, it would be obviously any autograph. Oh, look at there. Okay, that's fresh. That looks cool. There you have it. And I'll tell you this for a value box. That felt like a lot of value. The number of variations, the blackout, the sway premium. I'm digging it, man. But opening these cards makes me like want to collect guns at your cards. Because the cards are cool. Like, I'm like, I kind of want to get whatever I didn't get. You know, like, I'm kind of I'm now curious for the best Gonzaga player cards. So that's the best compliment I can give. Oh, we appreciate it. And I mean, that's what we're all about. You know, connecting fans to athletes, you know, through these collectibles, through these cards. Like, that's what we're really all about. It really is more about like the personal connection that you can make with players. As you know, being so close to a major university, you can get to know those guys a lot better than you could ever get to know an NFL team or an NBA player. So that's kind of where we come from. That's our background. And we think that that's important that shines through in our packs and in everything we do. We really appreciate it. Leonard and hey guys, as it's March Madness here, hopefully your bracket's still intact. Depending on when you're listening, if you catch this before, the tournament starts on Monday. Good luck. And look, go check out on it. You can see them at one of your local retailers. We're going to have them at collector station. We're going to be talking about it here on collector nation. Fantastic product, doing great things and only getting better. We really appreciate on it. We really appreciate you. What's up guys? Welcome to collector nation. Brian and Ryan here on a Friday, the 13th, 2026 of March. The most weird way I've ever said the day, Brian, but I got it out. What's up? Boogie stuff. That was your spooky voice. That was my spooky voice. How's Chicago, my friend? It was 70 degrees on Monday. And now it's snowing today. So that is Chicago weather. And especially in March, right? Yeah. Yeah. March for sure. Especially in the city itself is with the lake. It really doesn't get that warm. So if you get a east breeze off the lake, this could be 55 in the suburbs, 15 miles away. It could be 75. So until the lake warms up in June, then it kind of stabilizes. So it's like a air conditioning. But we're in the dead. We weren't dead summer. You know, we didn't get any, we didn't get spring. I think we're going to get, I think it's coming back in this weekend, the 60s, but we went straight. It's like 82. It feels like the real feels like 98 here. I'm not really, but it's hot and soft caca lackey, as we call it. And speaking of being hot, bam out of Ijo scored a three points. We recorded this a little bit ahead of the Friday. So it was last night for us, you know, so bam. I mean, kind of writes its own headlight. Bam. He said he had 49 free throws. Something like 40. He was 43 at 49, I believe. He had, oh, he made over 40 free throws. And his old high score, I think, was 41. So he beat his career high score on the free to land. Yeah. I mean, let's be honest, he was playing the Washington. What's the, what's the detain that travels with the Globetrotters, loses every game? Washington generals. They were playing, he was playing the Washington generals. You know, let's see, but I don't care if he was playing a much tomato cans. 83 points. It doesn't happen often. In fact, it, it's only happened one time ever or more, which is Wilk Chamberlain. What's happened in the lyrics world this week, Brian? You know, what's kind of interesting is that, that bam is a perfect example of what we talked about you and I talked about last week about how important a collection management and inventory management and being able to search and sort and filter through your collection. I mean, how many bands do I have? Yeah. I mean, you're like, I know I have bands, but I have no idea where they are. You just type it in. There's the cards tells you what location, whether at box four, row one, and you go grab them and you throw them on eBay. And last month, I think there was Gary bam, I think it might have been 2018's prism, silver prism. And this month, there was like 47 transactions. So if you were able to get, you know, get yours card out in the first market and get it on to eBay, quickly, you know, you made some money on those things. This is what the, hey, we, we preach this and some of you have taken note and done the smart thing download the app. You know, pay for some of your, you know, ultimate buy, you know, spitting a little too much on packs. You can offset that with some quick sales of stuff you don't want. We've tried to lead you to water, but this is the perfect example because I did this, I did this exact thing, Brian. And we're close to having all of our stuff organized to get on the next, but being a store, it's on the list and it's happening this week, actually. But I did the exact thing. I went, how many bams do we have? Because I knew we had some number ones, but I had no idea. This is a perfect example. You're so right. Anybody that was smart at last night went into their analytics app went, all right, search for BAM, bring it up, hit three, four or five buttons, on eBay, boom. And you catch that wave of probably like 24 or 48 hours. Maybe where he, because let's be honest, I love BAM. I've always respected BAM because he does the hard stuff, rebounds, defense. He's a great, I, he's a, I would want him on my team, but he's not a prolific score typically. So this probably isn't going to, I don't think he's magically going to become a 40 point a night guy, which is a lightning in a bottle. So moving quick. And that's what the little X app and collection management powers you to do. Yeah. I mean, he's a 20 point game guy. So yeah, this would be a blip that I would sell. Yeah, quick. So how many scans on the average day? Does let X do? Well, on a weekend, we'll do about a million, a million a weekend. And that's four million. And we'll do about, I have about 350,000 a day. So we'll be between like, when it's cold out in the wintertime, we'll do 12 million cards. And then in the summer, it's probably more like nine to 10 million. She's Louise the amount of data being slung around there. The, so again, everyone listening, if you don't do this, you should be. This is taking the little X app. Yeah, hit the button. It says scan card. And you scanning any of one of your trading cards, Pokemon, football, basketball football, whatever it might be. And it puts it into scans and identifies at a high rate. I know this. I've watched it. I've watched it grow like a little baby. How accurate it is now. It identifying that card in a variant and all the fun stuff that's not easy, but looks easy because it goes so fast. And they're doing nearly 350,000 of those scans a day on trading cards. Then, believe it, I like to bring that back up, Brian, because I think, you know, we talk about it like every few months, but like, you never know when someone news listening. And I think wrapping your head around just how many people that is and how many cards that is. Yeah, we did 160 million cards last year. God, there's a lot of addicts out there in the hot. There's a lot heard. And I'm one of them. Hard addicts. Yes, a lot of cards. I never forget the 28,000 Tom Brady's. Oh, yeah. Is that guy that is a 28,000? Uh, he came, uh, I forget how many he had 12,000 somewhere. 12,000. Sorry. He came up to the booth at a national. I was like, guess how many Tom Brady cards I have in a lot of X and he showed me. I was like, whoa, dude. You're like, you're the one crashing our servers. Look down, dude. Yeah, exactly. The first thing he's, he's the data killer. Like, you know, they get, they put the limits. Like, I'm sure y'all do too. Like doing the crunching the numbers, the average, like based on your fees and stuff. Like day to day, you know, unlimited data. The average user is two gigabytes. And there's always Ralph is using 3,464 gigabytes a day. Throws him. Throws him. He's him. That's him. 12,000 Tom Brady's. Uh, and, and 9,000 of them base cards. You, well, the collection was worked. Like, you know, almost $800,000. Well, so probably like one, one like refractor rookie was like $750,000. And then the rest are, uh, that he bought like out of a pack. I don't know who knows. You don't know. I'm sure they were spread out more than that. Tom has a lot of cards. So let's be honest. He grew up in the, the mech of, of, you know, when things got big, when he started, it might have been just kind of rounding up. But then I got, I'm telling how many total cards he has. Any played a long time. Yeah. Dude could still be planned. Looks like. So Bella's going to tee up this next story mainly because there's a lot of big words and, uh, you know, fishy behavior going on. All right. Uh, so there's a little PSA drama. When is there not, um, didn't say that. Uh, but a 2004 Japanese space fissures doxie movie commemoration, liticular card that was originally graded a PSA 10 got damaged by PSA during encapsulation process that reduced it to a PSA 6. And then they, which sold, which PSA 10 sold for around $45,000 in February by PSA themselves. And then PSA offered the collector only $20,000 in compensation for this error. Hmm. That sounds like mystery here. Yeah, it sounds like a disease. First of all, three words I love commemoration, lenticular encapsulation. Three of my favorites, especially in, uh, uh, what's spilling be? Yeah, I don't even know. I don't even know it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, anyway, it all adds up to a little fishy. I mean, I just would think they got enough going on to, to, to want to take this on. You know, like, yeah, you've bought to your competitors and got away with it where no one else would have, you're kind of rocking the boat, increasing prices. And it makes sense with supply and demand. And I've already explained my opinion on that, but you kind of got a little bit of this negative air blowing about you. Why even bring this on? Well, I guess we have to ask ourselves, like, where is that? Like, what's, who's doing, who has the power to do that? First of all. So if it's a guy running, you know, his, the little division of the buyback stuff and the guy makes, you know, 80 grand a year, I can see him being motivated to do stuff like this. Yeah. Coming from the top from a multi billion dollar company, they're not flipping cards for 10 grand. I mean, in 20 years, it's just, so it could be like more of an inside job that, you know, that Matt and the team don't know about. But when it gets out there, your job as a CEO is to investigate it and come up with a conclusive, this is what happened. This is how it happened. Or this is false, but he should come out with something, but they tend to never come out. They just kind of let it go. You don't know what to believe. And allegedly, they tried to get the guy to sign a confidentiality agreement with said $20,000 more fishy. I'm sure they did. It didn't work. Yeah, I just, we need some, they need to donate to charity or something like the PSA, you know, feeding the hungry award or something, you know, like, they need some, they need some PR here. Yes, control. They need like, like, some like youth, youth groups and give them some tens and let them have some fun. Yeah, they need some influence or marketing like to seed the market. Oh, no, they're not that bad. They're actually really good people. They actually upgraded my eight to a 10, you know, for no reason. And I got, it gave me more money. We need some of this news to go the other way, right? Yeah, you got to do it the other way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in other news, one piece cards alone saw PSA grading increases, about 700 percent six months. The promo is already selling for five figure prices. So I mean, there's no denying the power of them in the secondary market. I don't even know that. I mean, I don't know anything about those things, do you? Yeah, it's, we had asked for it. We have a few options in the store, the collector station here in easy South Carolina. But we're getting grew, we get requests. There's a lot of requests for that and magic cards. Magic. Quite a bit. And it's not surprising that that entails the grading increases, because again, grading is just, it's so much more in the vernacular now. It's like, I'll say this, Brian, every other customer that comes in brings up grading. I get this graded or do you all grade? Do you all grade? Do you all send cards off? Do you? I mean, like, I don't, I'd probably actually say 75 percent of every customer that walks in store brings up grading on some level. I mean, it's part of, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's probably one of the most important things in this industry, you know, it's just fun. It was nothing. I mean, it was not even part of the industry in 1990, when I first finished collecting. And also, like the magic community, they don't love their cards graded. And so, and so one piece is more, like, is there a game play with one piece? Yeah, I know there is. But it's magic. Yeah, the cartoon anime, sorry, not a cartoon on anime. I know what it's called. The one that you hate, male, from you one pieceers. I know what it is. I actually appreciate the artwork. Pretty nice. It's a little racy at times, you know, catch a bell over there, foam and through packs, that say, hey, you know, like, could you do that after hours? But other than that. Yeah, there's a, the magic people, they actually want to use them to play the game more than any other gameplay that I've seen. Yeah, if you saw the cards, you don't understand why. Top-tiered baseball, using a world's greatest year style retro design, continuing the nostalgia driven heritage line that appeals to both modern and vintage collectors. I think we talked about last week. There's just so many layers, you know, and then you go to Bowman draft, you go to Bowman first. It's like, I mean, it's so hard to make the major leagues. And yeah, I mean, I like collecting baseball cards and I'm like, watching it. I kind of like collecting it when they become real big leaguers. Yeah, I agree. Have you heard this story? Did we tell you this? Yeah, so I heard it, and it's insane. I mean, you have to end with this. Yeah. So it's, I think it was last Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday of last week. And I haven't bought into what, not in a while. I used to, like, everyone else probably buy into too many breaks and like, all right, I'm in six breaks right now. I'm not sure which one I'm going to um-bum watch, but, you know, yeah, it was fun. So I've said, hey, we'll buy in a little bit here and see Gille action going. So there was a prison, it was choice, I believe, prison choice. It's a single pack, prison, 2025 football. So you get a single pack in the box and they were open to case. So 12 box case, so 12 total packs being open. It's a heater box. I mean, it's fun. A lot of numbered cards, it's got the, I ever cherry blossom, every like major nebula is like the big hit. And I did random player on the wheel. It was like 300 players. And I got Stevenson, the running back from Patriots, good player, good not, or an exciting pickup. Let's be honest. And I got Quinn yours. Again, showed to promise it in the last year, a little improvement, not sure what's going to happen with him, but might be starting next year. His cards, they have a decent value because you play it Texas. And I think there is a lot of a fairer amount of people that think that he might ultimately be a starter in the league if not there, somewhere else. So I get those two guys. And let's just say I fell asleep before I could watch the break. It gets late, man. These guys are good. These guys do it. They're just going late. And it offered to go to sleep. And uh, fell asleep had no idea that I had those two guys. I'm like, how good or how bad could it be? And you know, if you've done what not in your listening, you know that they don't exactly don't send you who you got. You either watch that or you don't or you go back and look at the video receipt, which is never the right time and moment yet to watch like 30 minutes to see what you actually got. It's dumb, but I guess it's something. So I didn't do that. I just said, whatever comes in the mail would be like Christmas morning. Let's just say, I'd even forgotten that I'd even bought into the break. Yeah. So I think I spent like, it's a little under 100 bucks for both. And to get Steven sent and you're not very exciting. I'm not expecting to make my money back. I'll just say that. No, that's why you went to bed. That's why I went to sleep. So we'll start with I got a Steven's card. It was an out of 14. We're too bad as good as you could do. You know, other than like a cherry blossom or something ridiculous, like probably as good as you could do for him, like $20, $30 card. It gets interesting with Quen yours. First card that's in the pack was this one that I'm holding up a silver Quen yours prism, which is actually, I believe like 15 bucks or something 15, 20 bucks. Somebody's going to DM me and say, no, that's $7. Okay, fine. Whatever it is, it's not terrible, but obviously not a didn't make up that $85, $9, whatever the exact number somewhere in that arrange plus tax. Then here's where it gets interesting. The next card holding this up, you need to be watching. Hopefully you can see it. We'll zoom in something like that post production. It's an autograph when yours. And it's like a scope. I don't know the exact parallel. It looks like silver scope or something, not the mouthwash. And it was a one out of a hundred. Oh wow. And it was 100 out of 100. It was like, hey, wow, I got an auto. That's, I know enough to know that that was probably like 80 bucks, though it turns out it's right around 150 or $50 card. Hey, made more than what I spent. Okay, there's still more cards though. Proceed to see card behind that. It's another when yours autographed in the same case to the same card. Oh, I got number. I almost hit Jersey number. It's 14 or excuse me, 16. He's Jersey number is 14. I hit 16 out of 100, the exact same parallel. I'm like, what are the chances that you get two autographs? Did I go to the next card, the final card? Three out of the same series, the same set, Quen yours autographs, $350 Quen yours autographed in the same case, three out of 100. So three percent of the entire series are set or variations, the exact same card. If you only believe this, if you see it, and I'm holding them up for everybody watching three individual cards. We have 100 of 100. We have 16 out of 100. And we have 50, no, six, zero, six zero out of 100. Yeah, that you, I mean, you're not too far from cornering the market on those. None you can move the price. I'm going to get in a few more breaks. Let's see if I can get the other 97. But Brian, anyone listening? What are the odds? And Bella's showing these on the camera with a really bad glare? Yep. She's trying to help though. That's the odds of that is a mistake. So I don't even know. I've watched a lot of breaks. There's a lot of people that watch side of breaks. Have you ever seen someone get the same exact card in autograph numbered, not a base autograph that, okay, is not numbered and there might be 20, 30,000 of them? Two of the same numbered autographs. Have you ever seen that? I bet you there's one person going maybe out of our millions and millions of people listening. But there's probably nobody that's had seen too much less three. And here's how like I did fine and went and watched the actual breaking. They were hitting so many cards that were so good. And the guy was obviously just so used to the big hitters. He hit the one. He's like, hey, good hit, man. All right, thanks. Thank you if I had been on. How to say thank you in the caption. You know, Rodinit, thank you for getting that card. But I went on was okay. So he comes up. All right. Then he hits it like four packs later. And he hits it and he kind of pauses. But he's had he's already every card in these packs is a hit. They're all numbered nebulous. So I forgive him that when you were standing out as an auto, I wasn't really that big a news compared to the other things he was hitting. But he kind of paused. He goes, I think that's another point yours. Hey, good job, man. I'm like, okay, cool. That's cool. Double. Thank you. It's the like second to last pack. And he's gone through so many more cards. And I understood I was like, I first I was expecting him to do cartwheels. I couldn't believe that he got in three. But he's done so many more cards. He got to the third one. And he goes, I think we've hit three of those like and he couldn't quite remember. He's gone through so many cards. He's like his buddy or whoever's breaking with him. He's going, is that three of him? And like and he wasn't looking on the back to see that it was numbered. So he wasn't picking up the fact that they were all three out of a hundred. He was just seeing the auto. And so he picked up on he goes, did we really get three quit like he kind of he didn't make a big deal of it. But like I think if he had looked at the back of each one of those and and seen that they were all the same set, he would have made a much bigger deal out of it. But it was a little bit of like, oh god, dude, you this is a variety that you missed it. Yeah. And they got diluted a bit. You don't have been better is if they were all the same number. Like if it was a hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred like different ones three different sets are the same or the same one like to prove that the prove that they're actually duplicates out there. Yeah. That would be a scandal. You know, that would have been. Are these made by PSA? Sorry. Just like, well, let's be honest. It's kind of getting to that point. Yeah. So anyway, if you're listening and you've really seen three autos of the same player out of the same set in one case, let us know. But I have to think even though that's a limited, you know, that that choice or is not as many as like hot like freaking like blaster box or something, I still think there's probably thousands of cases of that, right? Yeah. So to get one three of the one hundred of the same player mistake on the manufacturing end, but the odds I should go play the lottery. You just did. I just wanted to. I won the lottery. I won the strategy ticket and win lottery winner. And look, my fascination with this story and like that is less about like, you know, hundred percent. It's great. The $400 or $500 of the card is not like it's it's cool. Like, yeah, I'm very happy. I didn't lose money on that break. My fascination is more the odds like thinking through like knowing data and math, you know, to at least on some level going the percentage chance of that is so low. It should be worth more than $500. It should be, Brian. That's the point. That's the point. Can we can someone make this worth more? I don't know. I needed that to be like the billion dollar, you know, 50 billion dollar jackpot that I've never played. Whatever it is. Yeah. The odds were much lower that you got them and the price is lower because that's my point, Brian. I someone should award this spectacular amount of luck that I had with more than when you were a total of cards. Yeah. In my book. Oh, thanks Brian. That's all that matters. Yeah, that's all. Brian, he final words today. I'm good. I'm going to head out to Dallas. It's a little warmer there than Chicago, but that's it. And like I always say, I appreciate being on here with you and Bella, thank you for another great show. We appreciate you, brother. Hey, if you see, Brian, look for any LudEx stickers, anything. Hopefully he's decked out. Go give him a paddle in the back, thank him for putting out such a great app and for being such a great guy, which he actually is. And I appreciate him. And we appreciate you. We know you got options. 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