The $3,500 Prismatic 'God Pack' That Blew Our Minds (You Won't Believe It)

SUMMARY
In this episode of the Trading Cards and Collectibles podcast, host Ryan Alford interviews Phill Faust, known as Beard Dad Cards, a well-known figure in the Pokémon card community. Phill shares his mission to make collecting accessible and scam-free for kids and families, focusing on education and community over personal collecting. He discusses the current Pokémon market, the impact of scalpers, and offers practical advice for newcomers. Phill also explains how he funds his business through content creation and live streaming at shows, emphasizing the importance of positive interactions and responsible collecting.
TAKEAWAYS
- Phill Faust's approach to making Pokémon card collecting accessible for kids and families.
- Discussion on avoiding scams in the Pokémon card market.
- Insights into the current state of the Pokémon card market, including scalpers and product value.
- Phill Faust's focus on content creation and live streaming rather than personal card collecting.
- The importance of community support in the Pokémon collecting space.
- Strategies for newcomers on how to start collecting responsibly.
- The distinction between sealed and opened products in terms of value.
- Phill's business model, including funding through content and live events.
- The balance between online presence and in-person interactions at shows.
- Recommendations for where to buy Pokémon cards and how to navigate the market.
I personally don't collect Pokemon cards right now. The good thing about my videos is it's Pokemon related but it's not Pokemon only. You don't have to like Pokemon to like videos. Welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles Podcast on the Radcast Network. From Chasing Grails to Colin Bluffs going inside the hobby. Are you ready to collect? Let's get at it. Here is your host, Ryan Alford. What's up guys? Welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles here on the Radcast Network. We're bringing you all things collecting. I'm always surrounded by some of my favorite collectibles and you know the boys and I are into Pokemon. We've talked about that and we think we know some things but here's what I know. We don't know as much as this guy. He is the beard dad, beard dad cards. What's up Phil? What's up man? How you doing? I'm great. I appreciate you coming on the show. Again the boys and I pretend to know enough on Pokemon so I'm coming to the show not only as the host but also making some mental notes of what I don't know. What's happening man? We're in Virginia right? Yeah we're in Virginia today dude. We're in Virginia. Good old Virginia. How does a beard dad get into Pokemon? By having kids. By being a dad right? Definitely by being a dad. Yeah. How long have we been doing this? I've been into Pokemon my whole life but deep into this hobby to where I'm at now for about. I want to say it's going to be a year in November. That's cool man and I like what you're doing. You're making it really accessible for kids, just for people. That's definitely what you're known for and watching your content. You're doing a good job and I think at least when I grew up he and I told people this story all the time so you're going to hear it on the show but the local card store guys and god they were jerks. They had so much control because you didn't have any knowledge and availability but everybody was a dick. It's refreshing seeing guys like you that are opening things up, sharing knowledge, sharing information and making accessible. Yeah that was the whole plan. That was a plan from the beginning. Just watching my own kids at shows when I would walk around with them. Being told no. No I'm not taking that card or I'll give you 50% because that card is really not that great. It's all the scamming. You learn about it over time and as much as you try and try to help others not let that happen there's no way around it so I'm trying to find a way to where that doesn't happen to kids anymore. That was one of the main things. Yeah and that's kind of how I felt when I was I mean something changed but now you've got it. Having been back into the hobby here a little over your myself it's like yeah it's almost data overload. There's a lot of nowadays it just takes you wanting to know. If you want to know you'll find out it's that simple. It's as simple as asking nowadays at the internet there's so many groups in the the Pokemon community itself. The community itself outside of the people that just ended to make money. They're great. The community's great. Everybody's willing to help everybody man. I mean I've learned it firsthand you know. So what's in the collection? Yeah I want to let's say you're going to be so in the collection there are no Pokemon cards in my collection. Oh okay. I have sold away and traded and gotten rid of all my collection to be able to further and further you know myself you know and being able to buy more stuff and you know have more inventory to do these shows so I personally don't collect Pokemon cards right now. What I do collect are custom things. Everybody that comes to my table they will bring me uh they know that Nitto King is my favorite Pokemon or they'll bring me their favorite Pokemon as a gift and they sign it and I have a binder full of that stuff or I have you know custom art that people give me and then Jordans. That's about what I collect. I've tried to collect Pokemon cards for yeah I've tried to collect Pokemon cards for myself but I look at it and I'm like man I know this card's worth you know $1,200 I can't just let it sit there like I can go sell it you know or I can go trade it or I can go use it for this or that so I never keep it unfortunately. I'm not at that point yet. There might be a day that it gets that it comes where I can finally do that and I will but right now it's just you know right now I'm thinking about other things and other ways to help people help my kids help myself help our future and spending money on Pokemon cards for me right now isn't something that I can do. No hey that's responsible knowledge that's what it's good knowledge or you know any of our younger listeners or watchers who are out there collecting you know that's responsibility and you know you're you're using your knowledge and what you've built you know it's a business I mean it is a business for you and it's become one step right it right it seems like you can separate the two and it's responsible I think I mean what is the core I mean doing live breaks doing shows what are what are the facets of the business. For me my main thing is I just do I just travel and do vendor shows where I live stream and when I live stream during these shows that brings an audience to be able to watch the interactions because that's what everybody's favorite thing is is watching the interactions and within those interactions people can you know immerse themselves and help from their home you know they can help these kids are like oh I you know oh my god that guy's wearing a you know wearing a Beatles t-shirt I love the Beatles let's hook that guy up you know and then they get happy because they made that person happy and you know they send they want to you know donate some money via YouTube live stream or they want to send it you know through my PayPal or something like that and then I tell that person hey you know so and so just wanted to let you know they love your shirt and you know they want to be able to get you something or you know a little kid will come up and you know they want to buy something and their parents like hey we really can't spend the money for that regardless I'm gonna take care of it but a lot of times they jump ahead and already go ahead and take care of it that's awesome man yeah very cool and so you're using the live feature within you know a physical you know show that's happening and then leveraging that sort of these experiences both online and offline yeah that's cool hey smart using technology that means it works great I mean it's the best way to be able to give back I'm not rich I don't ever plan on being rich so that's the only way that I can constantly give back to everybody that deserves it so when you're set up you're selling like wax cars individual cars so I mean you know just individual cars yeah it's more so it's just merchandise for you so it's not necessarily collects and everything's merchandise that you're selling yeah just cards that I am selling I don't I don't sell anything graded I only sell raw copies of cards how do you get your inventory unfortunately for me a lot of times people can buy you know they'll buy large lots from people sometimes people come to my table and bring a bunch of stuff hey you want to buy this you want to buy this and unfortunately it's come to a point where I used to buy it right I used to buy 75 80% of market value and that 20% is what makes up my margins right sometimes I get lucky in the card jumps and I get more you know sometimes I don't get lucky in the card drops and I lose money but it's all part of the hobby I've got to a point where I have a line of people waiting to me do interactions say hi you know get something signed stuff like that so I don't have time to buy these cards at the shows anymore I can't spend 30 minutes buying out a collection like I used to at the shows and during the week I just I don't have time during the week to go meet people to buy stuff so right now for me I don't make any money selling Pokemon cards at all I don't make any money I mean maybe a little bit I'm not gonna say it all maybe a little bit but not that 20% anymore because now I partner up with a couple shops and I just pay them they put it put together you know a bunch of cards and and I just pay them what the cards are worth because at the end of the day I'm just gonna sell them for what they're worth and you know the content is what makes up the money for me cool let's say you're funded like through the content channels themselves yeah YouTube TikTok a lot of the shows that people charge for tickets to enter they pay me for going to their shows that gets some more tickets sales so in a sense they pay me and that that's how I make my living yeah that makes sense at the time you're you've reached that point where you've built your following up in your persona and to now you're a you know page celebrity in the post you have happened in a sense people say that I don't I don't ever agree with them but in a sense that's kind of what it is and you know wait like for someone listening it's like people go well that's the dream man I mean I'm collecting and everybody knows who I am and I watch it I mean and maybe it is I mean you're blessed to do it but you've worked I'm blessed to get there but how is it I mean like I tell people it's a blessing in a curse in a sense I mean the only curse part is the you know the how tired I am at the end of the shows it doesn't seem like it but how much work it is it's a lot of work to give full attention to the person in front of you at the same time be able to give attention to the live stream so that you're not missing anything and then at the end of the show to be able to get more inventory to be able to supply these people with these cards and you know this interaction in what they're there for you know they're there for an interaction they're there to meet somebody that they watch online that they have respect for and I want to give them respect back and I want to give them exactly what they came for that's it's a good it's a lot it's a lot of work it is it's worth it to me it's worth it it's all you did was do podcasting I'm like but to be dialed in if I do like yeah shows in a day which I don't do that many more but I would I would come home and like melt into the ground like because because you're you're paying again you're giving attention and and it's different but it's the same time breaks it's your brain you're because you're you're not sitting there in your own world even if you're kind of typing on something or we're doing whatever your job is it's different when you're truly on my main thing like these these live streams they like the last one this weekend was about a 10 hour long live stream where I did not leave the table for the whole 10 hours so I don't take breaks I have a lot of people and if if the place closes down they want us to pack up and leave but if I have a line and there's still 20 people in that line I'm gonna say and make sure I'd see all 20 of those people so if I take a break that's more time at the end of the show you see what I'm saying yeah so I try my best not to say breaks and that stuff does you know we're out on me out you know I'll eat while I'm talking to somebody and it's all natural man I'm you know do we got to do to make sure I see everybody so where's your out of them in the show I recognize like just in general public it's not very very often it has happened a little bit more lately the other day I don't know if you where you guys are in South Carolina if you guys have a wawa no but I'm familiar with what it is yeah all right so wawa's just a really big gas station they also has like the store inside kind of like a buckies sheets in a sense I was at wawa getting coffee and somebody hey I know you and I'm like you do yeah yeah you're the beard guy and I'm like I am the guy with the beard for sure and then this last weekend coming back at the airport while I was waiting on my luggage two people recognized me like oh my god I watch your videos I love your videos you're awesome the good thing about my videos is like it's Pokemon related but it's not Pokemon only you don't have to like Pokemon to like the videos yeah so very approach yeah and I can't go into local card stores obviously if I go into one of the card stores there's gonna be people they're like oh my gosh I know you you know I mean I am at you know over a million followers throughout the three platforms you know almost two million throughout the three platforms so talk to me someone's listening they're wanting to get into Pokemon and then it's a hard thing and you know we've probably spent two hours or two days how we could spend days talking about yeah probably about like different strategies different things but you get all the different sets versions maybe start with where and how you guide someone coming into it you know fresh or relatively new what I tell most people you want to get back into Pokemon or get into Pokemon there's millions of ways yes you can just go to your local card shop and buy singles that you like to build a collection that local card shop will also have sealed product for you to open you can try your hand at go into retailers and trying to buy you know target Walmart unfortunately nowadays it's you know it's all set up already by scalpers to where you walk in it's already gone there are they already know when the drop is coming I mean these guys are you know from what I know they're paying the people that work for MJ holding and when they drop off these things like they're paying to hey let me know what time to drop it off here and you know this and that and so it's a little harder but if you're getting in the hobby your best bet is to go to Facebook go to your events on Facebook and look for a card event in your area for a week you know on a weekend they have small cartridges everywhere buyer cards watch a lot of videos on YouTube and stuff about it so you can learn a little bit about how you find the value of these cards so that you're not overpaying and kind of just you know see what you like once you get in and you you know you're you're within a week you'll figure it all out I mean you'll figure out what you want within a couple days honestly what about like some of the newer sets like versus older that sort of thing you know I mean okay what's um if you're collecting uh you know you see if and and now speaking more probably someone who's like started to get in another you know you see these price variations like prismatic and 151 and then the current release is you know if you can find it you know five or six dollars a pack versus you know 10 12 15 yeah seems to be rarity what's driving all that yeah it's I mean a lot of it is applying a rarity as well prismatic was a smaller set it's full of evolutions everybody loves evolutions the cards are in it are expensive so when you pull that expensive card you get a lot of money right so you end up paying more money to try to make more money in a sense right same with 151 it's a set that everybody loves um so that's that will always be worth some money then you have smaller sets like you know paradox sorry paradox rift or temporal forces that have some good cards but not really oh you know the chase is a raging bolt which people don't really like or the chase might be you know something people don't really like so the packs are cheaper because people don't care as much about what's in them um that's how that's how I've realized it how I've noticed it what I can't figure out fill is like open or keep sealed open or keep it sealed the boys and I the part of our experiences are out together open stuff and not all over that part you know you do it and it's I know it's fun but then there's always okay if you got surplus or you got some extra it's like the it just throw it in the closet the you know when is wrong how do you know which one's better because again you pay less per pack for Pokemon versus like other sports types things and all that and so I'm always like is the potential of getting one of those chase cards or a hit card greater than saving the unopened right so Pokemon does a pretty good job of making the same products in a sense to where you keep it sealed they make what's called Pokemon Center stamps product which are the Elite Trainer boxes those are very rare when you get one I recommend not opening it because it's very rare you just leave it aside they'll make the same box without that little stamp and you open those as far as like if you get into the hobby and you find some of the older stuff that older stuff is the stuff that you're not going to want to open up if you're looking to to make money in the future that older stuff you probably don't want to open up um the newer stuff whatever what just came out open the crap out of it because there's going to be more right but then you know stuff from 2018 or before they're not remaking that so if you don't have a means of getting a bunch of them get which can and you know save a couple of them and you know open the rest yeah because like I'll get you know like if we get lucky enough to score some retail priced you know stuff whether it's Walmart or museums or like some of that stuff you know like we've hit again access to sites and prismatic that'd be that's way cheaper than what I've ever been but I'm like do you throw that sealed in the closet or do you bust that thing open I mean me personally I'll tell you not to open your prismatic that one's one of the hardest ones to get hits from 30 packs of that stuff I'm that's not mini but I'm just saying a few hits you know and it's like I look like I think I have four dollars in cards right there yeah yeah which is funny because I don't open I don't do sealed products I don't buy it I don't trade it I don't collect it nothing with sealed product yeah I'll see only sealed product I ever do is when it's when it's for me to give away throughout the shows um so there was one time where I took a sealed product in from somebody so the date because that's all they had to get a card and I was like all right let's open it and my son opens it and he gets the God pack from prismatic it's every single if you loosen are you are it was like a $3,500 pack you know holy crap yeah holy I always thought those are just made up like no I I wasn't happy to front of me it's real it's a real yeah I would love that to happen I mean that's uh that would be amazing but they are hard yeah so if we acknowledge prismatic is hard to get hits in what's the best bang for the buck crown zenith in my opinion okay I mean they got a galerian gallery a trainer gal they got hits and hits and you open 10 12 packs of crown zenith you're bound to get at least six hits and right now crown zenith prices are going higher and higher and higher I mean the ceiling for crown zenith is that guillotine of e-star at two hundred dollars compared to some sets that have a four six 12 twenty five hundred dollar ceiling they're ceilings only two hundred bucks but they're a range of cards a range from anywhere between twenty to forty dollars there's so many that you know if you're just want to collect stuff and you want full art cards and cool looking cards crown zenith is probably your best bet and it's not too expensive no it's not that's good knowledge to have actually because we will sometimes know we're just gonna rip something and have crown zenith is probably available because it's generally available and not as pricey as some of the other stuff so right right yeah crown zenith tends to have a lot of hits I mean they're not expensive hits but they're hits it's not feeling oh I got some cool you know let's go look it just don't look up what it's worth we just know that you got some cool you know they're making it look it up you're gonna be like what do you think of the new mega evolution mega evolution school I mean it's well they're just bringing back the older stuff you know they're trying to bring back older stuff I mean the hobby is so big right now that I feel like anything Pokemon drops is going to be great right now I do like mega evolution I think it's cool what I mean to have to me it's the the the special illustration rares and the mega cards aren't my favorites it's a smaller illustration rares those are what that I think are cool yeah I like the vibrancy of it it has almost like yeah trying to put my finger on it like I don't know like a Marvel's not the right word but I don't know the vibrancy to the colors it felt different right that's probably the whole part of that selection yeah they tried something different I mean that's what they do what's coming out what I mean how how on the pulse like I mean you're still in singles you know you're how on the pulse are you with every release oh I don't even pay attention to any of it I don't I see it but I don't try to buy anything or you know I don't I'm not over here trying to you know waiting in line to buy the new set and stuff like that it's you know if it comes to my table it comes to my table if not whatever you know I can I don't like ripping stuff like that I'm not big into ripping cards my kids there they like it but they're not like oh I gotta you know they don't have that itch you know like some people do so we don't really we're not like dying to go by packs so yeah I have to go I can't do the standing in line thing like in fact yeah I won't do it either on it or like I find this somebody says hey you go over there there there's there you might land on something and I and it's in the the plan for the trip in line I don't like it in long you know yeah I'm not I'm not sitting in one line for for box of cards which I don't blame people that do because you know if they don't they're going to pay three times as much which sucks so I don't blame them for doing it I just I don't I'm not into it I just wonder what the tipping point is with scalper thing and I don't look down I got no problem look if you go wait in line and you wonder and it's you know it's we live in we live in the USA it's capital is market you know like I don't know I hate knowing you but I do wonder when there is this tipping point of how much product they put in like when does that stop or does it never I don't because it is it always been that way no no it wasn't like this always it used to be I used to go into targeting by evolving skies off the shelf like it was no problem nowadays it's just you know it's there's so many people in the hobby and there's the hobbies is so many so much money is being made so you know the people that they're like hey instead of working a nine to five job I can wake up really early and go stand in this line and buy all this stuff here then then then resell it and make more than one day than I made all week and then I can just not do anything so that's why we have the scalpers right now you know I don't know when that tipping point comes though I don't I don't know where's it all ahead Phil like what's what when you look at your crystal ball like for you where do you want to take this thing I know man I'm just going day by day week by week scheduling shows and meeting new people and just making kind it's the same thing over and over for me I go to the shows I meet new people I make the content we make people happy and who knows I don't know who knows I mean Pokemon can die out and people not go to shows anymore not have shows but I can still find a way to if I have a audience in a sense I can still find a way to live stream sports cards if it if that needs to be you know learn about that and do the same thing I know there's a guy called talent he does sports cards and he's a lot he does a lot of that stuff where he gives back to the community as well you know stuff like that there's sports cars there's everything man there's everything niceness isn't it just in Pokemon you know you can be nice and give back to the community in millions of ways joy and goodwill can be scaled I really appreciate what you're doing man man you're doing good stuff it's good for the community it's good for the hobby and I really appreciate you for spending some time with us here on the show dude absolutely right I'm I'm really glad you guys reached out and had me on here so that was really nice you know if you get to South Carolina at all I don't know if you do card shows around here South Carolina trying to think close is probably North Carolina but you never know there's so many shows out there nowadays like I get DMs regularly from shows like hey would you be interested in coming you know I've seen some South Carolina ones so I'm going to be multimedia store that's going to be my podcast radio meets a hobby store but everything's sort of on kind of call it like name name to be determined but card house live like really it's built for people to come do breaks all the deals are filmed like everything's sort of multimedia and as we kind of get that thing rolling I'd love to maybe invite you or have you down and yeah maybe we could do some fun stuff together yeah of course I'd love to great man working everybody keep up with what you're doing Phil main ones Instagram TikTok and YouTube those are my three major ones live stream on YouTube every weekend Saturdays and sometimes Sundays at the shows are two days normally 8 a.m. whatever place I am that time so if I'm in you know on the west coast you know or the east coast you know 8 a.m. normally when I start and goes on till 6 sometimes 7 p.m. I don't believe well how you do that I don't know either man I love doing it that's what it is it's not a job you know I loved I don't sit I feel like if I sit down then I have sat down on day two's because I'm so worn out from standing all day but like I feel like if I'm if if you're coming to talk to me I should be respectful enough to stand to talk to talk to I shouldn't be sitting down and looking up at you or you know maybe if it's a little kid I'll sit down so I can be more at their level but you know I try to stand throughout the entire show so yeah it is it's a lot but you know I love doing it when you're having fun you could be as tired as you want you're gonna keep going 100% well we appreciated beard dad cards you can find him at all locations really appreciate you coming on Phil and hey guys we appreciate yeah man we appreciate it collectibles dot show you'll find the full version of video audio links to all the other platforms and course links to beard dad cards I'm at Ryan Alfred on all those social media platforms as well had that blue check before you could buy it baby we'll see you next time thank you so much I truly appreciate it have a good one see ya collectibles dot show is where you'll find all of the channels and learn more about what we're doing and ultimately hey we want to hear from you you do case hits at collectibles dot show what you to send in your favorite pulls of the week and 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