Keep, Sell, or Trade? Cards Getting Hot Before The National

Ryan Alford, Brian Ludden, and Bella Shafer are back on Collector Nation with a weekly hobby episode covering World Cup card movement, Topps Chrome Cactus Jack Basketball, Ryan’s latest Cooper Flagg pull, and what collectors should watch before The National. Ryan shares the cards he may bring to sell or trade, including a Cooper Flagg on-card auto, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Ward, Jackson Dart, and other cards that could become trade bait for vintage icons.
The conversation moves through World Cup excitement, Messi and Haaland card movement, the popularity of soccer cards, and how big sports moments continue to shape short-term hobby demand. From there, the crew talks Ohtani’s latest milestone, LeBron speculation, NBA free agency, and which NFL quarterbacks could be worth buying, holding, or selling before preseason.
Brian also gives practical National advice, including transportation planning, VIP lounge expectations, and how collectors can use the Ludex interactive map to plan booths and notes ahead of time. This episode is a mix of market watch, personal collection strategy, and National prep from three voices living inside the hobby every week.
Topics Covered
- World Cup soccer cards and international hobby momentum
- Messi, Haaland, and soccer card spikes
- Topps Chrome Cactus Jack Basketball
- Ryan’s Cooper Flagg on-card auto pull
- Cards Ryan may sell or trade at The National
- Ohtani, LeBron, Jalen Brown, Donovan Mitchell, and NBA card talk
- Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye, Bo Nix, Joe Burrow, and NFL QB buys
- National Sports Collectors Convention prep
- Ludex interactive map, VIP lounge, and trade night planning
- Ryan Alford, Brian Ludden, and Bella Shafer on the hobby stories that matter this week
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Episode Timestamps
- 00:00 — Show Intro & Host Introductions
- 00:36 — Executive Wardrobe and "Many Hats"
- 01:05 — YouTube Channel Shoutout & Studio Style (Hats & Apparel)
- 01:34 — Soccer Talk & World Cup Reactions
- 01:53 — DoorDash World Cup Credit Promo Details
- 02:16 — Argentina vs. Egypt Match & Dramatic Comeback
- 02:44 — US Men's Soccer Strategy & Critique
- 03:15 — Lionel Messi Soccer Card Market & Values
- 03:40 — Golden Boot Contenders: Erling Haaland & Norway Ties
- 04:14 — International Perspectives on Visiting America
- 04:45 — Safe Travel & Chicago Perceptions
- 05:25 — Cape Verde & Their Goalkeeper’s Story
- 05:43 — Celebrating Too Early: The Pitfalls of Premature Victory
- 06:20 — Inter Miami & Messi's Potential MLS Move
- 06:33 — Cactus Jack x Topps Basketball Hobby Box Break
- 07:05 — Pulling a Cooper Flagg Base Card & Value
- 07:18 — Topps Signature Basketball Box Pulls
- 07:37 — On-Card Cooper Flagg Autograph Pull & Grading Potential
- 08:14 — Trevor Lawrence PSA 10 Silver Rookie Card Value
- 08:24 — Cam Ward PSA 10 Downtown Card Availability
- 08:30 — Jackson Dart Out of 10 Bowman U Autographed Card
- 08:52 — Cooper Flagg Gold Jersey Match /50 Perfect 10 Autograph
- 09:05 — Trading Goals: Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, and Ken Griffey Jr.
- 09:22 — Pristine Auction Commercial Breakdown
- 10:13 — Shohei Ohtani's 300th Home Run Record Analysis
- 10:39 — Unbreakable Baseball Records & Modern Home Run Trends
- 11:15 — Pitcher Usage & Nolan Ryan's 7 No-Hitter Record
- 11:51 — 2026 MLB All-Star Game Outlook
- 12:05 — Atlanta Braves Slump & Nostalgic Name-Dropping
- 12:54 — NBA Free Agency Chaos & LeBron James Rumors
- 13:17 — LeBron's Future Card Market & Longevity
- 14:04 — LeBron's Potential Landing Spots: Heat, 76ers, or Spurs
- 14:48 — Bronny James' NBA Potential & Team Dynamics
- 15:35 — Jaylen Brown to the 76ers Rumors & Eastern Conference Impact
- 16:03 — Boston Celtics Nostalgia & Jayson Tatum's Future
- 16:21 — Donovan Mitchell's Massive Contract Extension with the Cavs
- 16:33 — Onit Athlete Segment Intro with Leonard Berry
- 17:01 — 2026 MLB Draft Prospects & Onit Athlete Representation
- 17:41 — Gravity Baseball Card Product & Community Hits Feedback
- 18:13 — Onit Athlete Plans for the National Sports Collectors Convention
- 18:32 — Silver Packs & Onit Black Packs National Exclusives
- 19:15 — Women's Sports Representation in Onit National Packs
- 19:50 — Onit Athlete Promo Code & Outro Segment
- 20:13 — National Sports Collectors Convention Planning & Packing Advice
- 20:30 — Ludex Interactive Map & App Functionality
- 21:18 — Show Outro & Media Links
I do want to bring out a couple cards that I pulled this week. On card, Cooper Flag, Otto. Oh, wow. And it looks really clean. $1,500. Trevor Lawrence, PSA 10, silver rookie card. That's the home run. It goes for $1,600, $2,000. I think he's going to have a big season. It probably will be a little overpriced because I like Trevor Lawrence. Ha, ha, ha. And an out of 50 gold. Jersey match number two out of 50. Perfect 10 Cooper flag. That's a big card, too. These will be for sale or trade at the National. Brian, are you going to be trading, buying, or selling any cards? I'll have some stuff with me. I'll be selling. I got a couple of tannies that I think I need to let go of. If you're at the National, come say hello. We'd love to talk to you. And we will be on stage in the VIP lounge. That's right. So if you're in the VIP lounge, come see us. Yeah. Welcome to the Collector Nation podcast here on the Collector Nation Network. Whether you're chasing grails or calling bluffs, we take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts, Ryan Alford and Brian Lutt. What's up, guys? Welcome to Collector Nation. Brian, Brian, and the lovely Bella. Hello. She is looking lovely today. She looks like a Bella today. Brian, you and I always look the same. You know, we're just kind of Brian and Ryan. I should dress up as one of you one day and just wear like a snapback. Yeah. It's easy. You get up, put a hat on. It's one good thing. You know, you're an executive, but I guess depending on the meetings you have or don't have, you're in, you're in the card business. I mean, you can wear the sports gear and the hat, right? Yeah. It's like, uh, when the V like the venture capitalists come in or like, then I'm like, I go to the bathroom and, you know, get my hair all nice, put a, put a button down shirt on. And then as soon as it's over, I take it off. But, uh, yeah, it's many hats, many hats. Or no hat. Yeah, exactly. We appreciate everyone for listening. If you haven't checked it out on YouTube, go check out the YouTube page. You get to see what we're talking about. I'm rocking my camo collector station hat. I can't even tell. Brian's got a dark hat on. Maybe a. Oh, there we go. Shocker. All the matters. This is my favorite one. This is Nike. That's cool. I haven't seen that one. It's an OG. He's got the OG. And Bella's just... I don't do hats. No, no hats. No hats. My hair's too good to mess it up with a hat. The we'll start and I've admitted that I'm not the big of the world's greatest soccer fan or knowledge base. But, you know, it's the World Cup is in the United States. I'm not like complete immune to it. And it has been exciting. I have caught and watched games that did not have the U.S. I did not think I would do that. But it gets compelling in like the last 20 minutes. I'll say that. So, full disclosure, DoorDash has a deal going on where before the World Cup started, if you picked whatever team you thought was going to win, and then they have like a pool of money and they're splitting it amongst whatever team wins and whatever people picked that team. So I picked Argentina to win because I just guessed. And I was like, you know what? That seems like a reasonable guess. Yeah. You know, from the outside. Reasonable. Yeah. So yesterday we record these on Wednesday. So yesterday we were watching the Argentina Egypt game. Argentina's down zero to two against Egypt. I was like, damn it. Like this really sucks. Like I want my DoorDash credit. It's probably going to be like a dollar. But, you know, yeah, I take it. And that I think was one of the most electric comebacks I have seen from our from any sports game ever. three points in like 15 minutes. It was insane. Yeah, that's what the U.S. couldn't do. Because we don't have Messi. They needed that. Yeah, they needed that bad on Monday night. And yes, it was exciting. I caught the tail end of that, which was, wow, that's what makes it interesting. Yep. And Bella, the team's still alive. I mean, the funny thing about the U.S. game, and I think everyone knows my stance on soccer, but... When you're down goals and you only have one shot on goal, they don't shoot the ball. I'm like, how are you going to come back? They're like 40 feet away from the goal. I'm like, kick it. See what happens. It might get a ricochet. It might take a crazy bounce. But if you're down three goals and you don't shoot the ball, the math I'm doing is that you'll never come back. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. No, I agree, Brian. I watch it, and I watch the U.S. trying to come back, and I stopped watching, like, the last five. They're not scoring. Then you got completely out of hand. But it was like, yes, kick it. They're trying to set up the perfect play. I could tell what they were trying to do. I got it. I get this. I'm not an idiot. I can see the strategy that's going on here. But at a certain point, you just got to start firing that baby. Yeah. Well, as far as cards go for Messi, he's had some crazy upsides. You know, some of his cards are up 40%. Some are up 80%. He has, you know, one of his 2006 Panini World Cup Germany stickers is going for $575 and up 80%. He deserves it. Yeah, he does. He's currently in the top contender for the golden boot. Yes. The golden boot. The golden boot. What's it all about? I'm personally hoping that Holland wins the golden boot. I think he's just the funniest character. Okay. From Norway? Yeah. All right. And I've recently found out that I'm like... 50% Norwegian. So I got to go back to my... That's the blonde hair. Yeah, that's where that comes from. That's not a bottle, is it? No. Well, not anymore. It started to come in there. Yeah, but his cards have seen an 170% increase. Jeez. I mean, I'm just amazed at it all and proud to be an American, even though we lost. Yeah. I like the videos where they apologize to the U.S. and they're like, we are so sorry. We're talking so much shit about you in the U.S. and how dangerous it is and people are blah, blah, blah. And they're like, this is the most fun country I've ever been in, most beautiful country, the friendliest country. I'm like, don't read... don't read the media, man. Don't read the newspapers. Like, come to America and check it out. And they did. It was pretty cool. Yeah, that is cool. I saw that. And it's like, come on. Like, people believe, like, there's been this sentiment, I think, you know, with politics and everything else, I think outside of America, like, oh, my God, you know. And you just don't watch the news. Come experience it yourself. And then Chicago, like, they're like, you're not surprised you don't get shot every day in Chicago. It's so bad. I'm like, no, it's not. I'm living. I'm doing it. I walked around for two days in Chicago and have multiple, like hundreds of times lived there for eight months many years ago. But let me just tell you, Chicago is not unsafe. Okay. Y'all also have big scary man privilege. Maybe, but I don't know. Chicago's not scary to me. I'm sure there's a couple streets here and there, but not, I don't know, the main drags. I hope that stands true at our Airbnb for the national. Oh, yeah. For the national, yeah. You guys should send me that address just to make sure. Yeah. Oh, it's no backing out now. A little too late, yeah. You know, we'll send extra security over. We'll hire a security guard over there. I don't think it's a bad area. No, no. I'm just messing. But one last thing about the World Cup, I have to say, and then we can move on. I, as much as the rest of the world has, have fallen in love with Cape Verde and their goalie. That story just really warmed my heart. And I felt bad that they didn't. Even though I was kind of pulling for Argentina because I wanted them to continue. I felt bad that Cape Verde didn't win. I was really hoping. I watched that game. So I watched the last, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes. maybe hour. I don't know. I was in watching it. You can't go up into the crowds. The reason they lost is they celebrated the win in the sixth inning. Baseball people out there listening will understand what that means. Or in the third quarter of a football game. They were celebrating like they had won when they tied it and all that. And I get it. This is an upset and you're excited and you are in it. And he's up in the crowd kissing babies, his girlfriend. I think he proposed and then she broke it off all because they lost. But – You can't, you don't win until the game's over. And they lost. And I said, I forget whether it was my son or my wife sitting there. I was like, when he was in the stand, I was like, oh, that's the kiss of death right there. It's definitely going to lose. And they did. So it's a great story, but you don't celebrate until you're in. Yeah. But, I mean, 40-year-old goalkeeper. Because the tie is a win in soccer. Make it make sense, along with the clock. Not in the knockout rounds. Not in the knockout rounds. I don't know. I don't know. They do the penalty kicks. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but I'm interested to see season talks with Inter Miami. So I'm interested to see if that actually happens and how that will go. But I think it's been a successful World Cup and brought the world together. You can take a trip over to Cape Verde. Yeah. It's gorgeous. Yeah. It should be. High little island, you know. Yeah. 500,000 people. Yeah. I do want to bring out a couple of cards that I pulled this week. And one of them is not actually that big of a card. But Cactus Jack, that's Travis Scott's sub-brand with tops. They came out with football. Or basketball, excuse me. Cactus Jack basketball. And Nash and I opened a hobby box of that last night. Had to sell a kidney for that. But I guess I can't sell a kidney. I only have one. A little, hey, there's a trivia fact for you. I do. There you go. Everybody learned something today. But I will say, these are cool cards. Fun rip. I got, this is just a base. It has kind of a black and white look to it. But that's the base card. Yeah. That's a base? And that's Cooper. Yeah. Cooper flag base card. That's their base. And the base should look like that. And he made a gold. Yeah. The price of him. Yeah. But so, yeah, I pulled Cooper. We didn't pull anything that great. He was the most normal. But I really like what they did. Did you pull comms on it? Yeah, it's like 50 bucks for the base card. Something like that, 40 or 50. Now, this, on the other hand, top signature basketball, which a lot of people, it's been polarizing. Some people like it, some people haven't. It's been really good to the Alford's, particularly this guy. Very good. I've opened two hobby boxes now. They have two autos guaranteed, and the first one got the Magic Johnson on card and the – another big player I can't remember the name of, but got a lot of – we got like $3,300 worth of cards and a $600 box. That's a win. Well, the second one was opened on the boat this weekend. I do have video of that, by the way, of this poll that we will be sharing. I'll put that up for the team to have while I'm talking about this very thing. On card, Cooper flag, auto. Oh, wow. On card, Cooper flag, auto, about. And it looks really clean. 1500. Yeah. Yeah. Blue ink. Yeah. So, score. You get it graded? I don't know. I might. I mean, even the auto, like, it looks pretty centered. It looks like a clean auto, like. Yeah. It could be a solid 10 on the auto, and I'm going to guess a 9. It's hard to get a 10. It's probably a 10-9. Speaking of strong. It's going for about $1,300, $1,500. Yeah. It's just a base on card. We have, I have about three of these, so I'm going to take one. Trevor Lawrence, PSA 10 silver rookie card. That's the home run. That goes for $1,600, $2,000. I think he's got a big season, so that would be a good pickup for you. It probably will be a little overpriced because I like Trevor Lawrence. I got a downtown Cam Ward PSA 10. That will be available. I am taking it just to see. I did last year at Fanatics Fest. I got this autographed. It was before Jackson Dart had played a single down, but I had already bought this card before the season began for the hype train even started. It is an out of 10 Bowman U, 9 out of 10, perfect 10. Jim meant 10 autoed. by Jackson Dart. So big card, big card, nine out of 10, perfect 10 and autographed with verification on the back. We do have that JSA certification and I have the picture in my phone that I will text you where he signed it when he was signing it in his hand. So you have all the Behind the provenance of that autograph. And an out of 50 gold. Jersey match, number two out of 50. Perfect 10, Cooper flag. That's a big card, too. Those are just a few. And they're for sale. These will be for sale or trade at the National. What would you be trading for? Like, what would you... I'm looking for Bo Jackson's, Michael Jordan's, Ken Griffey Jr. I want to, my goal is to walk with an 89 Griffey Jr. PSA 10. So, and I've got, I mean, a couple of these cards, one of these cards might be worth that. I mean, some of them are. But then we could get creative. So if you see us at the National, number one, if you see me, Bella, or Brian, come say hello. We would love to talk to you. Yes, we would. We would love it. Yeah. And I'd love to trade with you if you have interest in any of these. Brian, are you going to be trading, buying, or selling any cards? I'll have some stuff with me. Yeah. I'll be selling. I got, I got a couple of Tonys that I think I need to let go of, but. Part ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got some V friends wax that I think I'm going to let my fly, but. Before we get back to the show, I want to thank one of our reoccurring partners, Pristine Auction. If you've listened to Collector Nation for any amount of time, you know we're collectors first. That's one of the reasons we like working with Pristine Auction. It's a real auction built for collectors with thousands of items ending every day across sports cards, autographed memorabilia, entertainment collectibles, and more. One thing I always tell people is to check out their daily auctions and live streams. There are no reserve listings happening every day, which means collectors of all budgets have a chance to find something great. Whether you're chasing a Grail item or just looking for your next addition to the collection, there's always something interesting ending on the site. And the best part, everything is backed by Pristine Auctions' authenticity guarantee, so you can bid with confidence. And if you haven't signed up yet, head over to pristineauction.com and use registration code NATION to get $20 off your first win. That's registration code NATION for $20 off your first win at pristineauction.com. Pristine Auction. Win. The real thing. What else we got? Well, Brian, you had mentioned Otani, and this week Otani hit his 300th home run, and he's the first Japanese-born player to ever do it, and they clocked his ball at 112 miles per hour off the bat. Crazy. So, great time to probably sell your Otanis. certain baseball records that would never be broken. Yeah. But the home run one is they could break. Someone could break that. Yeah. And I think it'll be him if it's anyone. I feel like, yeah, there's going to be, I don't know, I feel like there's this swelling of suddenly the balls. I don't know what they're going to do. I don't know if it's going to happen or if it's just the players getting stronger. You're going to have just, there's going to be a year it comes up where they're just flying out of the park. I feel like it's coming. You're starting to see the numbers creep up a little bit more. I don't know if they've changed the bats, the balls. I don't follow the tech enough. I know they dialed it back because too much of that was happening. I think they've maybe reduced it, but I think the players are getting bigger, stronger, healthier, just based on modern standards, right? You play longer. I mean, the one that will, I mean, one of many that will never get broken is seven no hitters by Nolan Ryan. Did you see that Marlins pitcher? He had a perfect game and he had 90 pitches in the seventh inning. And the manager goes out there and it's like, what are you doing? Like, how do you do that? How do you take him? It's not the world series. It's like a fricking, you're the Miami Marlins or whatever you are. And you're a 500 team. I don't even know. Maybe. And you're like, let the kid get fricking into the hall of fame with a perfect game. Let them lose it. But no, seven, no hitters will never be broken. They can't even fricking do a perfect game. Exactly. That's crazy. The All-Star game, the 14th, that's coming up. Is that next week, right? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Oh, God. Time is flying. That's a week from yesterday. Oh, gosh. Monday. That's Monday. And, you know, the year's already over in my head. Tuesday. Yeah. Next Tuesday. So, you know, the Braves are slumping every time I turn on. That's one baseball team that I really follow and grew up. World Series, you know, all the way from Dale Murphy and Bob Horner and Rafael Ramirez to Chipper Jones and Dave Justice and Smoltz and Glavin. Yeah, I'm name dropping, but that's now – I don't have enough time like I did when I was a kid. But when I go and watch, they had the best record in baseball, but they've been losing like two out of every three the last couple weeks. So they've got to get back together. That's all I've got to say. You've got to go down and give them a speech. I know. I think you're going to have to. I'm going to have to pump these guys up. You're sucking. Do better. I know. The pitching is not great. Last night was terrible. It's like 12 to 3 or something. I mean, it was just terrible. Pittsburgh. Hey, at least it's not the Mets. No, they beat the Mets. I think everyone could beat the Mets. That was the only series I think they won. And I don't know if they won that one. That division's not as good as people thought. No, the Mets are. I mean, their manager got fired in the first, like, 30, 40 games. I thought they were going to be like division leader and they're like, not great. So free agency in basketball has been crazy. Yeah. I'm curious, what are your thoughts about LeBron not going back to the Lakers? Where do you think he's going to go? How do you think it's going to impact his cards? Uh, cards, very little. I don't think. I think he has a chance to go up. Like, if he were to just have, look, he's played, like, a top 15 player in the league last year. There's a 40, 41-year-old, 40-year-old. Like, it's pretty incredible. If he plays as good as he did last, and I don't, his efficiency wasn't, if you look at some of the numbers, wasn't as good as it really appeared to be, but it was still elite. Yeah. especially at his age. If he can have another season like that, a year older for another team, he might get help another team get to the playoffs, if not win, if it's the right team. And his cards could go up. I don't see him going down. I mean, I just think, well, at 41, he has a slump year. Okay. All right. He resigned. Like, give me a break. What do you think, Brian? I mean, I just, I don't know why he'd want to leave one. I mean, he's going to chase a championship. Obviously, that's what he's trying to do. So New York becomes a pretty logical move for him. I don't know what the salary cap has to do with it. But, like, he's not going to San Antonio. No. He's not going to go from L.A. to San Antonio and hang out there. It's speculated that he's going to go to the Heat or the 76ers. Yeah. Back to the heat. I root against him. That's why I don't love LeBron James. I mean, stay where you are and fight it out. But he's going to go somewhere, and they're going to talk about it, and it's going to be all this pressure, and he can win a world championship. But at the same point, just stop. Yeah. I don't know. I need to know more about if he felt pushed out, if the Lakers were – I don't know what the, you never know what the politics and all that were. I mean, I think he got along with the players. I think him and Donch actually got along. I think him and Reeves are actually buddies. So, I mean, he was trying to be kind of the, as much as you can when you're LeBron James, be the senior leader and all that sort of thing. I didn't think it made a lot of sense. I agree with you, Brian, if there's not something else linked, you know, a reason, or if he got sort of pushed out silently, which I have a hard time believing, then I agree he should have just stayed there. The Lakers, I mean, LA, like finish it out. It's not like they're a train wreck. They weren't that far away. They picked up a couple pieces. Your son's still there. I feel like there's something we don't know. Does his son go with him like in his gym bag? And he's like, oh, by the way, you got Bronny too. Well, and Bronny is probably a really great G League player and borderline NBA player. He's not terrible. I mean, he's a good kid. I think he's talented, but I don't know if he's NBA material. But honestly, you know, if I'm LeBron, I'm not saying anybody deserves it, but. And I'm not a gigantic. I'm a Jordan guy. I mean, I'm not a LeBron guy. But if anybody's earned it, if your son truly is borderline, I'm okay with a little bit of nepotism in that case. Because I have four boys. And if I was one of the GOATs or considered on that list, not me personally thinking that, but a lot of people do. And you're my son's borderline at all, and he's not hurting the team. He's not a distraction. He's not, like, you know, getting into trouble. He's actually, you know, running the laps, doing the stuff. I don't mind a little bit of favor. I think you've earned it, maybe. I'm okay with that. You okay with that, Brian? Yeah, I think that's – yeah, I like that perspective. Yeah. But – I still think he should have stayed in L.A. too. I just think there's something we don't know for why he isn't. Because chasing the championship, L.A. was in the playoffs. They won the first series. I mean, they've picked up a couple pieces. But if he is chasing it and he just thinks Luka's never going to win one, I don't know. Yeah. Lucas games, and I love Lucas. I do. I enjoy watching him. But I'm like, is he going to win a title? I don't know. I think if he has the right guys around him, we'll see. But then some of the other things, Jalen Brown going to 76ers. I mean, if they got Jalen Brown and LeBron, With NMB can stay healthy. They're suddenly, I think, the frontrunners in the east. I still think all things run through San Antonio. Yeah. Wemby's reach can't really be beat right now. Mm-mm. But from the East perspective, I mean, New York's not worse, but I think the 76ers got markedly better. Jalen Brown's the truth. He kind of annoys the shit out of me that he's a legit player. It'll be interesting... I want to see the Celtics. I'm kind of like a still Celtics, like closet Celtics fan because just grew up with Byrd, McHale and Parrish and all those guys. Doc, it was a Doc Rivers that played. Doc Rivers. Yeah. And Danny Ainge. I'm aging myself here. But, you know, like I still have the nostalgia and I and I like Tatum as a guy. I think he's got a lot to still prove to be, like, a brush line to come back from that injury. But it'd be interesting where they go. Donovan Midgeville just got really, really rich. Yeah. Richer. 270 million over four years. I think that's what I saw. I'd change teams, too. I'm like, oof. All right, switching lanes a little bit. Football, preseason's coming up. It's going to be here before you blink an eye. Minus, you know, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen. What quarterbacks are we buying? What quarterbacks are we looking for? Which ones are we holding? Which ones are we selling? I do like the ones you have on the screen here. Jaden Daniels and Drake May. I think Drake May's got upside still, even though he's pretty high right now. A lot of his is baked in. Jaden's, there's actually a card we had in the store that I meant to take out of the cabinet. They got sold last week. It was a Pandora out of 25. Jaden Daniels is a sick card. And I was I've been eyeing it for months going, I'm going to take that. I'm going to keep that. And someone else beat me to it. Mind you, we haven't like singles. We don't sell nearly as much as sealed packs. So the fact that it sold right before you were going to take it out of the case. I knew I left it too long. I've been eyeing it every time I want to buy it. He has this down as like Herbert and Burrell. They're down a little bit, right? I'd be buying Burrow. I think Burrow's going to have a bounce back here. I think he's always popular, so I don't think he's like that much lower than where he should be, but he's lower than he should be. And I think he's going to have a bounce back. I think his receivers are healthy. He's healthy. It is one of those teams, though, that just seems a little snake bit that I go, you know, the Bengals, like things like they can't get it all together at once, but they made some – They picked up Dexter Lawrence on the defensive line. My boyfriend, Clemson, he is the truth. He's going to plug the middle. That's the first, like, superstar. They've had other guys, but they've got some dudes. They had Hendrickson. Yeah. So it's like, I think they could make a run this year. They've got a tough division, though. So Jaden's going to bounce back if he stays healthy. And I'm going to make Brian happy. He's not surprised at this. But I'm holding every Caleb Williams, I've got to tell you that right now. He's a superstar. There's a rumor that he's opening up some card stores here in Chicago. I might know the answer of that rumor, but... Yeah, I like him even more. I would be buying Caleb Williams. I would be buying Jaden. Drake May, I think the value's kind of in. I would at least hold him. The reason I'd be selling that. I think Bo Nix is a guy, and I think his coach is legit. You got Sean Payton there. You got a lot of support around him. They're going to be in it. Jackson Dart. That's kind of why I'm taking. I don't give away my hand here. He is. I was going to say it. I didn't want you to feel bad. No, I'm taking it. That's why it may or may not be for sale at the national. Now I'm undervaluing my own card. But. Very speculative market, like every rookie quarterback. But I think Cam Ward's a better prospect and has better upside and showed a little bit more. And Jackson's exciting, and he did a few things, and he got hit really hard on the sidelines, and he seems like a really cool kid. I can say that because I'm 20 years older than him. But I hadn't seen enough to warrant holding him. You know what, Ryan? There's always these year two quarterbacks. The year two quarterbacks, there's always half or a third of them that just never, ever hit their rookie. And maybe they get scouted. Maybe the defenses get smarter. Maybe they don't work as hard. And like, I don't know what it is, but the, some make adjustments into the professional life and some like a shooting star and then, and then fizzle out. And it just happens all the time. And I wonder if that's work ethic. I mean, what do you think it takes to be an NFL quarterback, but do you see the same thing? I see the same thing, and the only asterisk I'm putting on this, I want to save this because I know I'll either get, if you were to have a great year, somebody will replay this for me. But I'm going to put this asterisk. The only reason I hold out a maybe and a hope, he's got talent. Everybody's got talent in the NFL. John Harbaugh is his coach now, and John Harbaugh is a hell of a coach. And he's going to put them in the best system for success. He's going to support them. You've got Scadabo coming back, who I like, who's tough as nails. And if he stays healthy, they're going to – John's not going to let them throw it 70 times a game. John doesn't play that way. John doesn't, like, blow games, you know, because you think you have a bad team or something, let your quarterback throw 70 times. He keeps his teams in games with good defense and running the ball and not putting his quarterback out to dry if that's – they're just not talented enough. He wins games where they're the less talented team sometimes. That would be the only thing I think that can help – that's going to help. But we'll see. I just hadn't seen enough to warrant the values there are now, which I think that's what we agree on, Brian. Yep. Agreed. It's time for this week's Onnit segment of the week. Hey, everyone. What's up? It is Bella back with the Onnit segment of the week. I'm here with the one, the only Leonard Berry, who is the digital marketing specialist at Onnit Athlete. Leonard, what is up? What's up, Bella? It's good to see you again. It's been a busy month, but things are finally kind of slowing down, I guess, for me. But things are ramping up here, obviously, as we go into this summer season. Yeah, I mean, big MLB draft prospects that y'all have. Can you kind of give us a little bit of an insight into what that's looking like on On It's End? Yeah, as folks know, we've been talking about Gravity Baseball for the past couple of weeks. We've got plenty of draft prospects. in there and with the MLB draft coming up this weekend. Really excited to see potentially some of our names get called. Rock Chalowski. We've talked about him quite a lot, but there's a very high chance that he's going to end up being the number one overall pick. You got Drew Burris and Von Lackey potentially going in the top 10 there as well. Sawyer Stroh, Snyder, Liam Peterson, Chris Hacobian, Ace Reese, Caden Sorrell. tons of names. Ryder Helfrich is a name that's getting a lot of love right now out of Arkansas. Jared Aventula as well from Georgia Tech is a guy who folks have been kind of his draft stock rose throughout the course of the year. And just another one, potentially three Georgia Tech guys who get drafted this weekend, all who signed with us. So that would be really cool to see from our Georgia Tech team set. But I'm just really looking forward to seeing if Rock can hold on to that number one overall pick spot because Grady Emerson, the high school kid, has been generating a lot of buzz recently. So it'll be interesting to see. That would be insane. I can't even imagine being like 18 years old, just going right into the MLB. But I think that's also something that makes the MLB kind of special and fun. Yeah, I mean, having 15 top prospects just as on athletes is amazing. And yeah, three from Georgia Tech all getting signed in the first round would be pretty cool, pretty cool. Have you? has everything with gravity baseball still been good good reception yeah i've seen a seen a couple people submit their hits to us so that's been pretty cool uh onathlete.com slash highlights is the place you can go if you want to do that i've seen some hollow forms which is the brand new insert um i've seen some folks with uh autographs number nine so been super cool to see the community uh kind of reception and people getting big hits um you know as a retail product it's with no guaranteed autos. It's not always easy to find some of those low-numbered autographs. So to see the people out there pulling them in the wild, sending us seven wonders, it's been super cool to see. And like I said, we got quite a few in the draft prospects in that product, even though it's just limited to 10 teams versus the 21 that we worked with this spring. You still do have Sawyer and Ace Reese and Chalowski's in there as well. So nobody sent me the Rock Chalowski 101 auto. Maybe they haven't been waiting for him to get drafted. Maybe they're waiting for draft day so they can put it up on eBay and say White Sox number one overall pick, you know, but I don't know if anybody even has it yet. Yeah, that's crazy. All right. Shifting gears a little bit. I know we got like three weeks just about until the National. What do y'all got going on with the National? I know I've heard some rumblings of some exciting things that y'all are doing. So let's fill the audience in on what they can expect. Yeah, so we are going to be back at the National with, once again, we'll have a booth. So for folks that were at the National last year that maybe came by the On It booth, it'll be pretty similar to what you saw last year. We'll be streaming from there once again. So we'll have our live TikTok and whatnot ripping chips going on there at the National. We'll have the booth set up with a button on it product as well. Some of the folks, you know, who work at the company will all be there at the booth. So if you want to meet, you know, Matt and Kyle from the tick tock and whatnot side, or if you want to, you know, maybe talk to some of our sales reps, if you're a hobby shop or, you know, Just somebody who's looking to get some distribution or direct account will be there out in force. So for folks that are going that are, you know, in the card space, like we will definitely have a lot of opportunities for you to get in touch with us out there. And then for just fans and card collectors and stuff, we're going to have some special packs we had last year. We had the silver packs, which everybody seemed to love. There were a ton of huge hits in there. For a lot of different schools, the silver packs will be back. And with us doing Onnit Black in a new form this year, we're going to have some Onnit Black packs there as well that are exclusive to the National. So folks can expect to find some never before seen autographs across those new packs, which I think or I hope that collectors will be very excited about. Yeah, that's awesome. And are those only going to be available at the National? Can't get them after? Yeah. That is correct. Yeah, they are going to be national exclusive. So both the Silver Packs and the Onnit Black Packs are going to be national exclusives. So stop by the Onnit Athlete booth or if you're not at the national, you can also check in on our streams. So I know there's plenty of people who can't make it out to the Chicago area for a variety of reasons, whether it's work or whether it's just the cost. I mean... The cost of travel is not cheap these days. So you can check in on our streams as well. We'll be running some special promos for folks that can't make it in person, but still want to have opportunity to get their hands on them. But it will only run through the duration of the national. So if you hop in after the national ends in August, you're going to be disappointed because you missed out. Leonard, can you drop some of the deets again? Can you drop that link again for people to share the gravity baseball hits that they get? Yeah, absolutely. It's onathlete.com slash highlights. You can submit your gravity baseball hits there, but honestly, you can submit anything as well. It's kind of open for submissions. Obviously, we'd love to see folks ripping gravity baseball. But if you go into the national, you know, and you get one of these silver packs or these black packs and you get something big in there, we'd love to see those hits. uh, from the national too, or even if you're just hitting stuff like on streams, uh, you know, with other folks in the community breakers or going out and buying into the hobby shop and opening there, like we'd love to see anything and everything, uh, that folks are there. So on it, athlete.com slash highlights, uh, is that link and for you bella you mentioned going to the national uh definitely stop by the booth because the silver packs are going to have some women's sports in there so you might be able to find a little mixture some gymnastics some volleyball in there uh that's one of the things obviously that we work hard on uh is to get those women's sports representation out there so getting some softball some volleyball some gymnastics in those packs as well uh you know big names maybe even i don't know i can't say for certain but maybe there'll be some more jordan child stuff in there You've piqued my interest because I actually said I was like, OK, I need to like figure out what cards I want to get at the National. I don't like, you know, sports cards aren't huge for me. I'm more of into the Pokemon and gymnastics. So I was like, maybe I can try to find some gymnastics cards. And that's definitely going to be where I'm heading. So shop on it, athlete.com use code collector nation at checkout to receive 15% off your first order or go check them out at the national. I'll probably be there ripping some gymnastics packs. If I'm lucky getting that Jordan child's auto, if I'm even luckier, maybe that's where my luck will turn around. Uh, any final thoughts, Leonard? I just appreciate it and looking forward to, I mean, I won't be there, but looking forward to seeing everybody at the national, at least from the audit sense. So hoping to have a great turnout. It was amazing last year and the fan base has only grown this year. So we're looking forward to seeing everybody out there in Rosemont and looking forward to building into 2026. Yep. Super excited. Thanks, Leonard. All right. Wow. Is there any final thoughts from either of you? Any maybe words of advice for people that are starting to pack for the national and what they should bring, what they shouldn't bring? Yeah. If you're not in walking distance, make sure you take some more time to get your Uber. Maybe reserve your Uber. Yeah. Plan ahead. Hire a driver. Yeah, hire a driver. It's, I don't think so. I think I've got some tips and things that we're going to be releasing. They're a little, some tongue in cheek, but a little different. I'll save that for that segment. We'll link to that when we release it. We did a nice little 10-minute segment where I gave some insights that are a little different than what you normally hear. And I do think. it's so overwhelming with how much is there. I think either just embrace that or come focused on whatever you're trying to get done, you know, and, uh, have a plan. If your plan is just to be there and absorb it all, great. Absorb it all. Just walk around. Great. If you're there for a day, just soak it all in. There's also the Luddix interactive map that we can show on the screen, but that's now you can put notes in there on the different tables and the, and the vendors, something we added this year to the Luddix interactive interactive map is that the vendors get to put a more description of what they have and some of their bigger cards that they want to, that they're bringing. Yeah. So it's a good way to plan it ahead of time and at least visualize how big this thing is. So yeah, proud of my team. How did they get to that, Brian? Let's drop that for them. That's on the Ludox app. Yeah. So if you have the Ludox app, it's front and center on the landing page or it's on the NSCC website. It's on there also. And it's honestly better to look in the beginning on the web than it is on your phone. But the phone works pretty well during the event. But plan ahead on the web. Especially because it's probably going to be very difficult to get a good service. Yeah, but I will say this, and I'm glad Brian brought it up because I used it last year. It's really nice, the map. It is necessary. I pride myself in not really needing maps and I, you need it and you need to know where the vendors are and that's the value there. So L U D E X, get that in the app store. You should get it anyway. Best card scanning app in the store. Uh, but that's just another reason. And look, the national doesn't trust anyone to manage something like that. So that's to tell you all you need to know. Uh, any other things, Bella? Nope. That's all for me. the collector nation.com. Learn more about what we're doing, bringing all the hobby together, all the content, working with all the best players. Hey, you got the best players here. You got Brian and Bella. Yeah. I already got all the content of collector nation there that, and of course the podcast. So there's some cool functionality that's going to be rolling out on the app store in the coming weeks, probably right around national time and more announcements to come. And if you, hey, if you want to just shop the collector station where we're at here, the collector station dot com. Got all our inventory there. All the best products. Yeah. Learn more about the store, what we're doing, events. So if you're in the South Carolina area, you come through. This needs to be on your roadmap for a hobby shop. We are a flagship store of South Carolina. I'm just going to say it now. I know it. I've been in them. They're all cool ones, but this is it. We appreciate you. We appreciate Ludox. We appreciate Brian. Bella. Appreciate you. Yeah. See you next week, everyone. Thank you, brother. See you guys. Much love. Thanks for tuning in to the show. Be sure to follow us on your go-to podcast platform and catch the full video episode over on YouTube. 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