Inside Brian Ludden’s Massive Card Storage Unit, NBA Draft Hype, and Pokémon Demand

What shenanigans did y'all get up to? You know, we ripped some packs, though. Ryan nailed some stuff. Yeah, Ryan let me rip. And then I brought him to the Skirts Unit. I was like a kid in a candy store. There's so many boxes of stuff and cards, and it's all cool shit. It's like, you don't want to put a box down. You're like, it's crazy. It's like 40 feet deep by 10 feet wide. Oh, my gosh. You know, everything's stacked up. And it's like treasure hunting. And we were there 20, 30 minutes. I don't know how long. It might have been an hour. I lost track of that. I lost track of time. It was every box was like, this is what you hope the box would be. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Welcome to the Collector Nation podcast here on the Collector Nation Network. Whether you're chasing grails or calling bluffs, we take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts, Ryan Alford and Brian Lutton. What's up, guys? Welcome to Collector Nation here on the Collector Nation Network. You got Ryan, Brian, and Bella. What's up, Brian? What's up, my man? How you doing? I'm good, man. Just back. We were, you know, in full transparency, I think we said we were going to film in Chicago. Yeah. Let's just say we were so deep in, like, business talks and, you know, shenanigans, the podcast had to wait till back in South Carolina. It's okay. It feels like home. you'll get out here again. Exactly. What shenanigans did y'all get up to? I don't know if it was that many shenanigans. We ripped some packs, though, and Brian nailed some stuff. What'd you get? What'd you hit? I got a numbered jersey match, Daniels. Hey, that's pretty good. A five out of ten, Jaden Daniels jersey match. Yeah, Ryan let me rip. And then I brought him to the storage unit. Oh, how was that? Overwhelming? It was everything he said it was. Awesome. It's like, we didn't have enough time. You know, there's never enough time, right? But... It was like a kid. I was like a kid in a candy store. You know, like, I was just like, there's so many. I know what Ryan was saying. There's so many boxes of stuff and cards, and it's all cool shit. It's like, you don't want to put a box down. You're like, but you want to get to another one because you know you only have, we only were there for like 30 or 40 minutes. And, you know, it's crazy. It's like crazy. 40 feet deep by 10 feet wide. And, you know, everything's stacked up and it's, it's like, it's treasure hunting. I mean, it really is. It's like, and even I don't even own it and I, and it's enjoyable, you know, like just flipping through it. Cause you know, like. Brian, did you let him, uh, let him take anything home? He did. Oh. Great finders keepers. So what'd you find? I got a couple of King Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas, Bo Jackson, and then like a classic Jordan card from like 93. Oh. There might have been one or two others, but those were the standouts. The Griffey Jr. was really cool. I mean, he's got so many inserts. Like the 90s inserts are amazing. Yeah. I mean, those are like all your favorite players. Oh, dude. I was like, oh, my God. Where are they? And that was only 40 minutes of looking. Oh, yeah. At first, when Brian said that, you know, he's like, you know, I had really gone through it. I'm like, what are you talking about? You haven't gone through it. That was like in the behind, like anywhere near me. But now I know. I mean, I know how busy Brian is. I know how busy I am and we all are to go through it properly. You have to flip through these things. And everyone else has been pristine condition. I mean, I'm not saying everyone's a 10, but there's none. They're all like perfect condition sets. And it's amazing. I had to just take the key and be like, I'm shutting this door. I almost stayed in there and just said, hey, bring me a cot. Hey, you should have extended your stay a day and not told Brian. I know. Snuck in. If I could just abandon all responsibilities. I know. You know, but it was good. It will, I will be back. I'm trying to convince Brian to ship it all here so that me and the boys can go through it. And, you know, reward him handsomely and do all the treasure hunting. Yeah. But, I mean, this collector, I mean, Brian bought this collection from a guy's wife, Tass, and I can't, I don't even know what it takes to collect that much. He clearly was a hoarder on some level. Where are you even putting all of that? Oh, I don't know. Supposedly it was like overflowing her house. And I'm going through the math. It must have been a big house if it even fit in the house. Yeah, 40 by 10 storage unit. Yeah, and then now we have like three storage units. We add a thousand square feet of cards. but it's basketball, football, I mean, equal opportunity collector, let me just say. I mean, it was everything. Hockey. Penthouse. Penthouse cards. Brian like stumbled upon like 10 or 15 like random sets. He's like, hey, he was a real collector. He collected everything. No Pokemon, unfortunately. That would be the only thing. Hey, that would have been awesome if he did. Yeah, but baseball, basketball, football. I mean, you pick up one box, you see something written on the side and then scribble and it sounded cool and then you open and it's like... Goldmine. Yeah, it was. So I encourage anyone, if you have the ability and you get offered collections like that and you have $100,000, $200,000, $300,000, $500,000 laying around, it's a lot of fun. A good hobby. A good pastime, if you will. Yeah. But it would probably be, I know that Brian probably this time is kind of not over it, but like I'm going to get to it when I get to it. I think I'd be like itching to like, because here, the district in Greenville in this area of South Carolina is. I've got plenty, you know, Chicago is a high rent, lower space district. And Brian's got a beautiful, huge office, first class. There's nowhere for those cars to go there. Like, unlike here in South Carolina, it's pretty cheap real estate, relatively. I could throw that as units behind me, and that'd be itching in my back ear every day. Where's Ryan? You got to do the podcast. No, he's out in the storage thing. It's 100 degrees today. Oh, I know. He's out there sweating his ass off. He's going through 90s inserts. it's amazing you know who would probably have a heyday in there is Corey Williams American Arbor oh yeah anybody that's into cards and collecting and appreciates yeah I don't even know that you have to appreciate it. It's not even vintage. It's more midterm modern, I guess, but the best of it. And it really was, sometimes you go through stuff like that and we were there 20, 30 minutes. I don't know how long, it might've been an hour. I lost track of time. Really good. I lost track of time, like quickly. It's not the stuff that you don't want. You know? Like sometimes we get a million people want to bring junk wax to us. Yeah, 90s baseball. And this was none of that. It was every box was like, this is what you hope the box would be. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Did y'all watch the NBA draft at all? Watched? No. Track on my phone? Yes. It was, I think it went about like I expected it. I think BYU. Yep. You know, AJ DeBansa. There you go. I got his name. AJ, I love you. I've been saying you're the best player and I don't want to butcher your name, but not the easiest thing for my brain to track on. But here's what all you need to know. This guy's going to be a superstar and I'm glad the Wizards, you know, I do think people, players sort of go there to fizzle sometimes, but this guy might be good enough to take them over the hump. I just think it's crazy that he's 19. And they had eight out of the top nine picks were all freshmen. And it tied it for the record of most freshmen in the top nine. And I just think that's crazy. I could not imagine at 19 years old just going into the NBA, being thrown into the NBA. And I know a lot of players do that. But it's really crazy to kind of think about like... I don't know. 19 just seems so baby. Like you can't even drink. Like you can't celebrate with your team. I'm going to give you a comp on this guy. I'm going to give you a blend of two players that come to mind. It's if Jason Tatum and Anthony Edwards crossed, that's who I think AJ can be. And that's the highest praise I can give you. He's kind of got the athleticism of – Of both of the guys, like Eagly, Tatum's a freak athlete too. I almost wanted to say Anthony Edwards, but Anthony Edwards can jump out of the gym, but so can Tatum, but Tatum's 6'10". I feel like he's a cross between these two. He's got to improve his jumper a little bit, but he's got the form to do it, and he's a freak. He's going to be real good. So would y'all buy him now or wait to see how he does? Yeah, I've already bought him. I'd be buying him. Does he have cards out? Yeah, he's got the Bowman stuff out and a few things. He doesn't have, obviously, Wizards. It's all college stuff. So I've got a few of those tucked away. I'm excited to see Cam Boozer, see how he does. I think he kind of has the total package. I know he went third, so he doesn't have the first overall draft pick kind of energy. But I'm excited to see how his card market does. I think that he has a lot of upside potential, especially being from Duke, a powerhouse team. I think he could do really well. Yeah, I think it's like athleticism is just something that, stuck out to me that not as athletic as some of those other guys. Yeah. But he's more versatile. Hit threes and he's stuck out. But he could. You know, he's a winner. I think he's better than his dad. And his dad was a hell of a player. And so I think his dad wasn't like a freak athlete either. And I think he's actually more. And I think he wasn't. But I think Cam is more of an athlete than his dad was, which isn't saying a ton. But I think he's actually more skilled. Like. He can handle the ball. He can shoot the three. I mean, you know, Carlos wasn't shooting the three. I'm not saying he never did, but he was not. He didn't have the touch. I feel like he would be a sleeper, and I think he would be a number one pick in any other draft. They didn't have A.J. Peterson and – or A.J. and DeMansa and Darren Peterson. Darren Peterson is – Health is a little bit of a question, but he's a stud, too. I mean, a lot of people thought he was going to go first. So I have a little game for you all. Ryan, you can't answer because you can see. But, Ryan. So, yep. AJ, DeBansa, and Darren Peterson had a dual auto PSA 10 that sold on June 6th. How much do you think that card sold for? Who made the card? No. It's got to be Bowman. Yeah. It's okay, Bowman. Bowman. 600. Did you say 600? Yeah. $18,300. On June 6th. Way off. Yeah, but I bet it's tripled now. Now that they've both been drafted 1-2. Yeah. I bet it's... They were supposed to be drafted 1-2 for a long time. I mean, is that really the premium that is lost in college uniforms? Yeah. Other uniforms. It is. And I think, I know why you went there. I think I would have probably said six figures too, like just with the way the card prices have gone. Like, I hadn't seen this. But, and then on some level, I do know that the college jerseys sort of undervalue it for whatever reason. And not undervalue, that's probably where it should be. But like, everything else is so inflated. Like, what's a bot, like, whatever product that, what do you pay? Like, how much do you pay plastic? And what are your favorite types? It's probably half, that's probably half the price. It's not, but I will say like, again, if that was a NBA, NBA, dual auto, it probably is in the territory, you know, it's in six-figure territory at least, especially now. Yeah. And, but it's not a quarter or, you know, that's why I think it's actually a good value. Like overall, you know, in some ways, but you're upside, I think that your chance of pulling is probably higher. I'd have to look at all the percentages. But at the same time, it's about half the price, I think. Because like a hobby box at the time might be, $250 to $350 for Bowman and then twice that for an NBA product. Yeah, that sucks because you save $200 on a card, but it's like way less valuable. Yeah, and the Cam Boozer card recently sold for $14,520. So I'm sure that, and that was back in May. So I'm sure that that card has also skyrocketed. Yeah. And I like to, Bella did a game for just me, so I won. You are. You're one of one. You're one of one. You're always a winner in our hearts, Brian. Yeah. The Caleb Wilson is a good team. This is a pretty loaded draft. I mean, we'll see. I mean, you never know until they get out there and play. But there's a lot of Caleb Wilson. Probably be a one or two pick. And speaking of NBA collectibles, Jalen Brunson's NBA final debut jersey is already being auctioned off for over a million dollars. Well, anything that high, I mean, it's going to go for insane. Yeah, I mean, New York fans don't mess around. So I'm interested to see how much it actually sells for. And I mean, Wemby's Game 3 jersey and the balls and the nets and all of that are also being auctioned off. And they're going for like $3 million, something close to that. Yeah, it's crazy. What was that? What'd you say? Who owns that? Is it the NBA or the team? Oh, I'm actually not sure. Sosby is the auction house, but I don't know who's like the original owner. I mean, Topps obviously did a ton. I don't, and I'm not saying they're involved in this whatsoever, but they did a ton of like autos and everything with the Now product. I think we talked about that last year. And so all these guys got it figured out, you know, like as soon as something's over, they've already got it scheduled. All right. Back to like the dual pass, they have autograph sessions set up with both the winners and the losers in case, because they don't know who's going to win. And like making the t-shirts, you know, that they have to burn. Yeah. No, it's game seven. Yeah, I've always wondered what they do with the shirts that they make extras of. They honestly go a lot in Africa. As in Africa, it's like whoever the Bulls beat those years, it's like they had their championship. I'm like, they didn't win it. They posted it. That's funny. That's funny. Well, Brian, I know that you have to head out to another meet-in. Is there any Ludox final thoughts from you? No, I'm just hopeful that Brian came up to the Ludox HQ. We had a great time. He was so generous. I was a ripping pack. Much love. Much love. Yeah, bro. Enjoyed it. Appreciate the hospitality and the team there at Ludex. They're doing exciting things. L-U-D-E-X in the App Store. Go check them out. Lots of new stuff coming out. I got a sneak peek on some of it. So we'll talk about that more as we go. All right. I know we aren't going to be going to Fanatics Fest this year just with the World Cup and the National like two weeks later. But they are they are having some pretty fun things happening at Fanatics Fest. I heard Serena Williams is joining them. Tom Brady, which I know he's probably there every year. So probably not groundbreaking. He's got to show up so he keeps his tops allocation. believe me he would keep it no matter what but I joke for us dealers out there that you know have to scrape our way through it don't have Tom Brady's name hey we're doing pretty good we had a review saying how stocked we were oh I know But yeah, they're going to be given or one of the prizes you can win at Fanatics Fest is a $250,000 Messi trading card. And I'm sure that that's probably going to be worth even more after the World Cup's over. Yep. And we were there, the boys and I were there last year and they didn't have this, I don't know if it's the exact thing, but they had a lot of games and different things built into the activations with sponsors. So this plays right into it. I mean, it was amazing. We went to the National and Fanatics Fest last year, so I got a pretty good perspective of the differences. And Topps does a good job. I mean, it truly is more of a fan experience. I mean, go figure. Fanatics Fest, no shit, right? But they do live up to that because having done a lot more of those types of activations in the past with brands, they do a good job of blending entertainment with activity with big names and then they had a nice card section and supposedly it looked like everybody was selling everything they had so it almost created more scarcity because you go to the national and there's 5,000 you know vendors probably more than that and it's just like whoa and not that they didn't all do great too I'm sure but the uh it's a little more controlled I guess I would say because it's kind of like one corner of an addict's fest But I'd love to win a $250,000, you know, and playing some kickball or whatever. I mean, they were throwing football around. We were at a couple of the things, like with Dick's, they were launching their in-store trading card store in certain stores and had that activation. And they had, who was it? Yeah. One of the QB guys that are on ESPN, I'll think of his name as soon as we stop this segment, but he played at Baylor. Played a lot for Washington, D.C. I love how you know everything about him. I know everything about him. I know everything about him. RG3. Thank you, Cole. Cole saves me from the pack bar. Yes, RG3. He was a freak too back in the day. Still is. Still could zing the ball. Let me tell you. Poor kid. He was throwing it with. He about took his head off. That's right. But yeah. It's a fun. I'm going to go at least a little easy. But I guess when you have, you know, prizes like. I don't think he was like trying to show him up or anything. It was just, I think. Let me take that back. The kid kind of threw him a little bit of a zinger. And he's like, really? And he just kind of flicked his wrist and about like decapitated. And it didn't hurt. It didn't even get hurt. It just, he didn't even catch it. He wouldn't even thought about catching it. I think he realized for the, okay. I think there's always those guys that like think, oh, I could have played. You know, I just didn't. They just don't realize the difference between the athleticism. Like, okay. The next NFL quarterback sings one like barely at you. And you're like, okay. All right. Yeah. My dream's over. But I think the NACS Fest will be fun. It's very New York to me, like the whole activation, the whole setup. It's very like cosmopolitan and New York to me. And I feel like the National is very Chicago. Like, I think that is very, very true. Like they fit the cities and... And there's going to be Detroit next year, which is different, but similar. Yeah, similar vibe. Yeah. Middle America, but just people are riding, man. Going through those lanes, looking at all those cars. Like, you know, and it is, man. It is a fire hose. It's kind of like going in that freaking storage unit. Yeah. Yeah. As we wrap up, I know we had our trade night at Collector Station this weekend. I was not able to attend, but Pokemon was kind of flying off the shelves a little bit. And I'm super excited for the 30th anniversary set coming out in September. I just want to kind of know your thoughts on that. Yeah, I mean, I keep thinking that, you know, the Pokemon thing, it's going to like, not fizzle, but like settle. And every week it's crazy madness. Yeah. People buying and ripping and I'm all about it. I just, it feels... It doesn't feel like a bubble because I think we're well, it's been a six-year bubble if it is. But it blows my mind how many different people are into it. And, you know, and I enjoy ripping the packs. Opened a few last night, actually. Yeah, they're fun. Yeah, it is. Artwork's cool. And even the most expensive packs, like when you think about it compared to sports, are more affordable and more expensive. You know, like, all these sports things are $40, $50, $60 a pack once you start adding it up. And the hits can be bigger, but Pokemon is probably, it's weird to say it, as popular as it is, and with scalpers and all that shit, it's still probably the best value. And at the end of the day, at least you can still, like, even if you get, you know, 10-cent cards for the whole pack, like, you could theoretically still play the game if you wanted to. I know a lot of people don't tend to play Pokemon anymore, but I think it's... I mean, Hudson's put together a master set of the Chaos Rising. He's only, like, maybe a couple cards off. And he's more into sports than he is Pokemon, but just as, you know, an accomplishment, like, putting it together, building his little binder and stuff, so... So has he been ripping it or has he bought any? He's done a little bit of both, but we've probably, we've ripped quite a bit. And I've just let him keep whatever we get. Yeah. I mean, and he pulled, I think like, ironically, like the gold Green Ninja, it's like one of the first ones we got. And then we haven't gotten the actual like big Green Ninja SIR. So that one's still to come. We're still out there. Still chasing it. Some final thoughts here. Hold some stats on what PSA's grading was like over May. They had over 2 million cards submitted in May, which was down 7%, which is crazy, but still up 25% year after year. You know what's interesting? So here's what's interesting about this stat. Yeah. They have a 15, I'm sure it's going down, but 15 million card backlog. Yeah. So how does that factor in? You know, like, I guess it's just what they actually got done. So this is more of an efficiency chart than anything else. So they got 2.07 million done. Some percentage of that is the value backlog. And some percentage of that is the ones, the people that are overpaying or paying for high-end cards. But I will say, look, This is, and a lot of the other shows out there talk, I mean, almost ad nauseum about this. But owning a store and being a collector myself, it's a problem. When the company that owns sort of the value, like, what determines the highest value. Like there's not a lot of rationale, unless it's Pokemon with CGC, to use a different company if you're collecting for value than PSA. And when that value tier is on the shelf indefinitely, it becomes a challenge in how you collect, especially if you're a store or a flipper or however. If you're not playing the long, even if you're playing the long-term game, you don't really know what you're holding until you get it graded. Yep, exactly. And like I have cards now, like in my personal collection, things that I've got, even some stuff that Brian gave me that would absolutely be like on the first list of getting graded. And but I'm not going to spend 85 to 150 dollars on it. Especially when the cards don't have as much of that upside unless you get a 10. So it's like if you get like an eight, like, yeah, you're kind of screwed. Exactly. So it's a problem for a lot of people. And I think. I don't know the solution other than them getting through the backlog. I think they're going to have to, they're probably going to have to increase the price. You know, they increased the price. Everybody hated it. Well, do you hate that more? Supply and demand, baby. Yeah. Basic economy. Yeah, exactly. And you can't even get it done. So you want to pay more? You know, you want a good, fast, or cheap? Yeah. Pick two. You can't have all three. Exactly. It's time for this week's On It segment of the week. What's up guys? We are back with our Onnit segment of the week with Leonard Berry here, the digital marketing specialist over at Onnit Athlete. Leonard, how you doing? I'm doing good, Bella. Glad to see you. And it's been a busy couple of weeks over here at Onnit. Yeah, you're finishing up your tour of the Midwest, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, finally made it all the way up to Boise. So it's good to be here, be in the office. And then I'm going to turn around and do it basically all over again. Any, uh, more, more fun stories that you have from your travels? No, not really. Didn't, uh, didn't do a whole lot. Um, just kind of wrapped up some signings. And we did have, we did have one guy who's like really interested in hunting down his one-on-one. So that'll be pretty cool. He wrote, he wrote DM me on the back of it, but. That's hilarious. It's been a big week for Onnit. How has the Gravity Baseball release gone through Walmart? Yeah, it's been super cool. So we're out in Blasters or at Walmart and then Meyers. So folks who are in the Midwest know that Meyers is kind of like a regional chain out there. But nationally, we're in Walmart for Blasters, at least. And then for Megaboxes, those are out Best Buys nationwide. And then there are also some select hobby shops as well. So some hobby shops. Yeah. got their hands on them and are selling them. I can't say like for certainty what hobby shops you have. So like if you're going around in your local town, some places might have them, some places might not. All of them might have them, all of them might not. But if you want to get your hands on it for sure, Walmart and Best Buy are the two places that are kind of universally. nationwide that you can guarantee to get your hands on some honor on a gravity baseball. And we've seen some cool hits already. Some people have been sharing off their hits with us. I've seen a Sawyer Stroh Snyder, a hollow form, which is a true case hit in this new release that somebody submitted to us. So I'm really excited to see what the community polls on. I mean, it's a product that seems to be well-received so far. Yeah, we need to get some over here at Collector Station. Got to be repping Onnit at all times. So, yeah, I'm super excited for that and for you guys. And with the new transition of ownership, I think that this is really a great step for y'all, especially getting into those big box office stores. That's really hard. So I'm very impressed with Onnit, and I hope that it... you know, continues to grow and continues to happen because, you know, we need to have those smaller brands break through the walled gardens of Walmart. So really excited for y'all there. Yeah, I think it's a big testament to what our folks have been doing behind the scenes, you know, to create a product that is desirable enough that Walmart and Best Buy, you know, two of the biggest nationwide retailers come to us and say, hey, we want to carry your product, you know, and to have an exclusive product basically that, you know, only they are carrying. I just think that it's a lot of hard work over the past three years. And a lot of people on the team that have contributed to get to this point, you know, like you talk about overnight success or whatever. I don't know if it's necessarily overnight success, but overnight successes don't happen overnight. They have been over long years of building. And then, and then it's finally just like one snowball effect moment. I do want to talk about the Golden Spikes Award. I've heard that there's some good on it contenders that could win this award. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, out of the three finalists, two of them are on athletes. So we have Rock Chalowski, who signed for us on our UCLA team set. One of the best players in the Big Ten this year. One of the best players in the country. Pretty much the unanimous number one overall pick out of the Chicago White Sox. When the MLB draft rolls around here in a couple weeks, everybody is projecting that he will be going number one overall. But he's in a fierce battle with Landon Harrison. Yeah. who's one of the best players in the Big 12 this year at Arizona State. Landon was in our Arizona State set this year. That was a non-autograph set, so he didn't sign for us, but he does have parallels and inserts, and both of those guys are incredibly deserving of the award. I've seen a huge amount of ASU fans and Landon Harrison supporters out there. He seems to have the biggest backing of the two, but Rock has an incredible season too, and I know that If either of them win the award, you know, we'd be really happy here on it. There is there is one other guy in the competition who's from a non on it school. So I'm not going to mention that. But to have two out of three, you know, in the two out of three in the final running is pretty awesome. And then we also have the Oklahoma seniors, of course, win national championship. So it's been a pretty good month of June for us. Who if you had to pick, who do you think is going to win it? I'm going to put my money on rock just because, I mean, everything all, he came in with the highest expectations. Like everybody anticipated him to be the best player in the country. He was predicted to be the number one overall pick for months now. And with all of that, he still lived up to the height. He delivered an incredible season, even with UCLA's unceremonious dumping out of, their own regional, you know, rock did everything that he could for this team this year. He played through injury, you know, didn't really struggle as much as a guy who is injured is supposed to showed everything with the glove, with the bat, with the speed. So I'm going to take rock. And I think that's part of the reason why the White Sox are going to take rock. So now that we're kind of transitioning out of baseball season, what's the kind of fall sports lineup looking like? Yeah, we've got, I mean, fall sports signatures are basically coming in day after day. We're working to get all of our football schools ready and prepped to go for a There's some August releases, volleyball too. I'm not sure if we're expanding the volleyball line, but we're definitely going to be carrying more volleyball products again. This year, you know, Nebraska volleyball was a huge fan favorite every year that we've done it. And so expectations to have some more Nebraska volleyball on shelves, one of the best teams in the country. And just – working with a bunch of new, uh, new schools, new players, uh, stuff that I can't talk about right now in terms of who we're going to give away. But, um, I promise some folks down in the South, uh, are going to be pretty happy with some of the new, uh, school additions this year. And then to tie this over to with Oklahoma winning, uh, Oklahoma winning the championship, we do have our final product of this year, which is the Oklahoma commemorative box for baseball. So it's kind of the last hurrah of the 2025-2026 academic season as we transition on into 26-27. Yeah, that is awesome. And if you're listening, you need to go check out onitathlete.com. Use code COLLECTORNATION at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. And go get that commemorative box. I mean... Nobody would have guessed that Oklahoma would have won the championship. So that box is even more special. Be on the lookout for all of Onnit's new releases coming out in August for football and volleyball and everything like that. We love Onnit. We love having this partnership. Leonard, any final thoughts? I just really always appreciate coming and chatting with you and you and Ryan. So looking forward to seeing what people think of the commemorative box, what people think of the new football product, because it'll be here before you know it. Yes, it will. Awesome. Well, thank you, Leonard. And we will see you next week. Well, any final thoughts before we close out here? I don't think so. We're in the summer countdown to the National. And lots going on, lots of news. We're at less than a month. I know. That's crazy. Yeah, I know. Crazy. Well, hope to see. Well, actually, no. A little over a month. A couple days. A couple days over a month. Well, excited to see y'all at the National. If you're coming, hit us up. We'd love to chat and meet you and make some deals happen. Exactly. You know where to find us? TheCollectorNation.com. See you next time. Right here. Right now. Thanks for tuning into the show. Be sure to follow us on your go-to podcast platform and catch the full video episode over on YouTube. Visit us at collector nation.com and follow Ryan on Instagram at Ryan Alford. Now get out there and collect yours.